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Northern Lass wrote:

mallosa wrote:You could be right Jimmy, information from Lisa said she was born in Wolverhampton

Births Jun 1863
SHELLEY Elizabeth Wolverhampton 6b 498

Lisa do you have this?

be interesting to see who she links to

nb was there any fathers on that marriage docket?

Further information given by Lisa...

"she was born in Wolverhampton to James and Rebecca Shelley"

1871: Palland? Place, Wolverhampton, Staffs
Jas Shelley 35 Head Marr Hump ? Siesdon, Staffs
Rebecca Shelley 35 Wife Rowley Regis
Mary Shelley 9 Dau Wolverhampton
Elizth Shelley 7 Dau Wolverhampton
Ruth Shelley 5 Dau Birmingham
Emma Shelley 4 Months Dau Wolverhampton

1861: 43 Juke? Street, Wolverhampton
James Shelley 24 Head Stamp? Dresser
Rebecca Shelley 25

Living at 47 is Josiah Shelley 60 and wife Catherine 55 with their children

Poss
Marriage 1860
SHELLEY James ROWE Rebecca Dudley, St Edmund Dudley Register Office 201/003/408

Do you want me to add the above information to BCC NL?

23 Dec 1860 St Edmund Dudley
James SHELLEY F B Hemp Dresser Dudley Father Joseph (Crossed Out) Josiah Shelley Labourer
Rebecca ROWE F S Dudley Father (Dec) ----
After Banns James Signed -The Mark Of Rebecca
Wit; Thomas Webb Sarah Ann Duckett?

Possible Rebecca pre marriage

1841 Powk Lane Rowley Regis
John Rowe 25 Coal Miner Not born in County
Ruth Rowe 25 Not bornin County
Rebeca Rowe 5 Born in County
Daniel Rowe 2 Born in County

1851 Powke Lane Rowley Regis
Ruth Rowe Head W 35 Pauper Nailer Born Dudley
Rebecca Rowe Daur 15 Nailer Born Rowley Regis
Daniel Rowe Son 12 Nailer Born Rowley Regis
Emma Rowe Daur 9 Scholar Born Rowley Regis
Ellen Rowe Daur 6 Scholar Born Rowley Regis
John Henry Rowe Son 4 Born Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Holden Visitor 23 House Servant Born Bromsgrove

1861 For Ruth
OLd Hill
Thomas Willetts Head M 38 Chain Maker Born Rowley
Ruth Willetts Wife M 43 Nailer Born Darby Hand
Emma Rowe Daughter in Law 19 Nailer Born Rowley
Ellen Rowe Daughter in Law 16 Nailer Born Rowley

1871 Peartree Lane Rowley Regis
John Willitts Head 32 Labourer in Ironworks Born Rowley Regis
Emma Willitts Wife 29 Nail Maker Born Rowley Regis
Rebekah Willitts Daur 8 Born Rowley Regis
Susannah Willitts Daur 6 Born Rowley Regis
John Willitts Son 4 Born Rolwey Regis
Daniel Willitts Son 1 Born Rowley Regis
Ruth Willitts Mother 54 Nail Maker Born Rowley Regis

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1862
ROWE Emma WILLETTS John Dudley, St Edmund Dudley Register Office 201/004/11

Cant find a marriage for Thomas and Ruth

IGI Extracted
JOHN ROWE
Marriages:
Spouse: RUTH JONES
Marriage: 20 JUL 1834 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

We already have Rebecca and parents on BCC - here

I have connected up

kdw wrote:
1861 For Ruth
OLd Hill
Thomas Willetts Head M 38 Chain Maker Born Rowley
Ruth Willetts Wife M 43 Nailer Born Darby Hand
Emma Rowe Daughter in Law 19 Nailer Born Rowley
Ellen Rowe Daughter in Law 16 Nailer Born Rowley

1871 Peartree Lane Rowley Regis
John Willitts Head 32 Labourer in Ironworks Born Rowley Regis
Emma Willitts Wife 29 Nail Maker Born Rowley Regis
Rebekah Willitts Daur 8 Born Rowley Regis
Susannah Willitts Daur 6 Born Rowley Regis
John Willitts Son 4 Born Rolwey Regis
Daniel Willitts Son 1 Born Rowley Regis
Ruth Willitts Mother 54 Nail Maker Born Rowley Regis

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1862
ROWE Emma WILLETTS John Dudley, St Edmund Dudley Register Office 201/004/11

Cant find a marriage for Thomas and Ruth

Marriage 1860
WILLETTS Thomas BROOKES Ruth Dudley, St Edmund Dudley Register Office 201/003/348

here on BCC

Thomas Willetts.
Bride's Name: Ruth Brookes.
Marriage Date: 21 May 1860
Marriage Place: St Edmund'S, Dudley, Worcester.
Groom's Father's Name: Thomas Willetts.
Bride's Father's Name: Blank.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02301-7.
System Origin: England-ODM.
Source Film Number: 992182.

Another connection maybe?

John Willetts born 1867

Jemima Nock born 1867

Poss
Marriage 1888
WILLETTS John NOCK Jemima Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/7/152

1891: New Town Lane, Rowley Regis
John Willetts 24 Head Labourer in Ironworks
Jemima Willetts 23 Wife
Ruth Willetts 3 Dau
Lily Willetts 1 Dau
(all born Rowley Regis)

1901: 25 Peartree Lane, Rowley Regis
John Willetts 34 Coal Loader/Hewer
Jemima Willetts 32 Staple/ Bolt Maker
John Joseph Willetts 8 Son
Ruth Willetts 12 Dau
Hannah Willetts 3 Dau
(all born Rowley Regis)

next door -

Joseph Nock 63 Head Labourer in Chainworks
Hannah Nock 63 Wife
Caleb Nock 19 Son S Fittings Tube Striker
(all born Rowley Regis)

added that marriage for a look up

Where is the marriage for Benjamin Brookes and Ruth i know it says married 25 Dec 1857 on BCC but i cant find the marriage on West Mids BMD or Free BMD

kdw wrote:Where is the marriage for Benjamin Brookes and Ruth i know it says married 25 Dec 1857 on BCC but i cant find the marriage on West Mids BMD or Free BMD

Ok RF has kindly given me the marriage info
here..have added it in citations
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =859184644

rockyfowler wrote:23 Dec 1860 St Edmund Dudley
James SHELLEY F B Hemp Dresser Dudley Father Joseph (Crossed Out) Josiah Shelley Labourer
Rebecca ROWE F S Dudley Father (Dec) ----
After Banns James Signed -The Mark Of Rebecca
Wit; Thomas Webb Sarah Ann Duckett?

By the way, thanks for this look up RF

1871 Peartree Lane Rowley Regis
John Willitts Head 32 Labourer in Ironworks Born Rowley Regis
Emma Willitts Wife 29 Nail Maker Born Rowley Regis
Rebekah Willitts Daur 8 Born Rowley Regis
Susannah Willitts Daur 6 Born Rowley Regis
John Willitts Son 4 Born Rolwey Regis
Daniel Willitts Son 1 Born Rowley Regis
Ruth Willitts Mother 54 Nail Maker Born Rowley Regis

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1862
ROWE Emma WILLETTS John Dudley, St Edmund Dudley Register Office 201/004/11

Cant find a marriage for Thomas and Ruth

IGI Extracted
JOHN ROWE
Marriages:
Spouse: RUTH JONES
Marriage: 20 JUL 1834 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

1881: 22 Pear Tree Lane, Rowley Regis, Stafford

John WILLETTS 42 Cradley, Worcester, Lab
Emma WILLETTS 39 Cradley, Worcester, Nail Maker
Rebecca WILLETTS 18 Cradley, Worcester, Nail Maker
Susannah WILLETTS 16 Cradley, Worcester, Nail Maker
John WILLETTS 14 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Nail Maker
Daniel WILLETTS 11 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Samuel WILLETTS 7 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Ruth WILLETTS 4 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Benjamin WILLETTS 2 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Ruth WILLETTS Mother W 65 Dudley, Worcester,
Joseph JONES Visitor W 59 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Unemployed brother to ruth ?