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I have a marriage look up kindly done by Rocky Fowler.

24 Jul 1882 Holy Trinity West Bromwich
Thomas LAWLEY 23 B Labourer West Bromwich Father Thomas Lawley Iron Worker
Jane BARKER 20 S West Bromwich Father Mark Barker Breeze Weld
After Banns The Marks Of both
Wit; James Tandy X Mary Ann Ebury X

I'm happy that the bride is this person:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

I think I have Jane in Glamorganshire in 1891:
LOWRY, Thomas Head Married M 30 1861 Furnaceman West Bromwich
LOWRY, Jane Wife Married F 28 1863 West Bromwich
LOWRY, Thomas Son Single M 8 1883 West Bromwich
TRYER, Jessie Visitor Single F 2 1889 West Bromwich
BARKER, Frances Visitor Single F 18 1873 West Bromwich
SCOTLOCK, John Boarder Married M 45 1846 Coal Maker West Bromwich

Frances is Jane's sister, I think!

1901
77b, Guns Lane, West Bromwich
LAWLEY, Thomas Head Married M 50 1851 Iron Works Labourer West Bromwich
LAWLEY, Jane Wife Married F 50 1851 West Bromwich
LAWLEY, Tom Son Single M 18 1883 Iron Worker Shingler West Bromwich
LAWLEY, Mark Son M 10 1891 West Bromwich

1911
17 Darmouth St West Bromwich
LAWLEY, Thomas Head Married 29 years M 52 1859 Labourer Ironworks Cross Street Slyng Staffs
LAWLEY, Jane Wife Married F 49 1862 Tyndal St West Bromwich Staffs
LAWLEY, Tom Son Married M 27 1884 Puddler Ironworks Earl St West Bromwich Staffs
LAWLEY, Mark Son Single M 19 1892 Caster Hollow Ware Foundry Croft St West Bromwich Staffs
HALL, Hannah Lodger Widow F 65 1846 Charwoman Cradley Mall Cellow Staffs

My question is do we think that Thomas Lowry is Thomas Lawley, and that the BC accent confused the welsh?

Possible
1881 24 Cross Street West Bromwich
Richard Jones Head Widower 55 Boat Loader Born Tipton
Mary Lawley Wife Mar 46 Domestic Servant Born West Bromwich
William Lawley Son 26 Coal Miner Born West Bromwich
Sarah Lawley Daur 24 Domestic Servant Born West Bromwich
Thomas Lawley Son 21 Bricklayers Labourer Born West Bromwich
Mary Lawley Daur 15 Screw Turner Born West Bromwich
George Lawley Son 13 Scholar Born West Bromwich
Samuel Lawley Son 3Mths Born West Bromwich
William Latimer Boarder 13 Scholar Born West Bromwich

1871 Coop Street West Bromwich
Thos Lawley Head 38 Pudler Born West Bromwich
Mary Lawley Wife 34 Born West Bromwich
William Lawley Son 16 Mills Roller Born West Bromwich
Sarah Jane Lawley Daur 14 Scholar Born West Bromwich
Thos Lawley Son 12 Scholar Born West Bromwich
Maria Lawley Daur 9 Scholar Born West Bromwich
Mary Ann Lawley Daur 5 Scholar Born West Bromwich
George Lawley Son 3 Scholar Born West Bromwich

1861 22 Cross Street West Bromwich
Thomas Lawley Head 30 Pudler Born West Bromwich
Mary Lawley Wife 25 Born West Bromwich
William Lawley Son 5 Scholar Born West Bromwich
Sarah Jane Lawley Daur 4 Scholar Born West Bromwich
Thomas Lawley Son 1 Born West Bromwich


West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1855
LAWLEY Thomas JONES Mary West Bromwich, All Saints Sandwell Register Office 22/7/22

Possible for Mary
1851 West Bromwich
Richard Jones Head Mar 34 Boat Loader Born Tipton
Jane Jones Wife 33 Born West Bromwich
Mary Jones Daur 16 Born West Bromwich
Sarah Jane Jones Daur 10 Born West Bromwich
George Jones Son 6 Born West Bromwich
William Jones Son 3 Born West Bromwich
Richard Jones Son 1 Mth Born West Bromwich

I'd spotted the 1871 census for Thomas' family, thanks for the others

I'm wondering what the concensus is as far as the 1891 census in Wales is concerned. I originally found it due to Frances Barker being on it, and did think sister Jane was married to a Thomas Lowry - the marriage record now makes it certain to me that Jane married aThomas Lawley. My main question is do we think that the 1891 Census in Glamorganshire is correct? I can always put it down as a possible.

It certainly looks like the same family to me, on Ancestry the 2 year old is Jessie Fryer not Tryer

kdw wrote:It certainly looks like the same family to me, on Ancestry the 2 year old is Jessie Fryer not Tryer

Been looking through my notes again and I think Jessie is Jane's niece - I have her sister Ruth marrying a James Friar/ Fryer and on the 1901 census there is a Jessie who matches up.

I've added the 1891 census notes as a possible to Jane and Thomas. That BC accent must have confused those taffies!!!

This can be archived now!

I'm half Welsh

1891 18 Croft Street West Bromwich
Mark Barker Head 57 Ironworks Labourer Born Shenstone Staffs
Ann M Barker Wife 59 Born Hamstett Ridwar Staffs
Luke Barker Son 26 Ironworlks Labourer Born West Bromwich
John Barker Son 21 Iron works Labourer Born Wet Bromwich
Mary A Young Mother in Law Wid 92 Born Hamstett Ridwar Staffs

kdw wrote:I'm half Welsh

1891 18 Croft Street West Bromwich
Mark Barker Head 57 Ironworks Labourer Born Shenstone Staffs
Ann M Barker Wife 59 Born Hamstett Ridwar Staffs
Luke Barker Son 26 Ironworlks Labourer Born West Bromwich
John Barker Son 21 Iron works Labourer Born Wet Bromwich
Mary A Young Mother in Law Wid 92 Born Hamstett Ridwar Staffs

I've got that one, I've not added everything I've got yet.....
(I grew up in Wales - love the place )