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Does anyone know the location of the ancient setlement of Brettle within Halesowen ?

Have you seen this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halesowen

anne138 wrote:Does anyone know the location of the ancient setlement of Brettle within Halesowen ?

The earliest records I have for Brettle is a Will for Thomas Brettell 1665 Cradley Halesowen. There were a lot of Brettells' in Cradley. There's a Mary Brettell who is a member on here she is descended from the Black Country Brettells, Mary has done a one name study. I will see if I can contact her and ask her to get in touch. Are you looking for anyone in particular Anne

HTH from Linell.

Here's a link to Mary's post:-

viewtopic.php?t=2631

Thanks for the links - I'm not looking for anyone in particular Linell.
My brother mentioned Brettle today ( whilst we were looking for stone houses in Hasbury ! ) I read the Wiki post and wondered if it was made up, as I'd never heard of it before.

Brettell, the settlement, now called Hawbush, is due north of Amblecote (West Midlands). Paul Henzey, a Protestant Lorrainer and glassmaster, escaped from France with other Frenchmen in the late 16th century and went to the 'Stourbridge' area when King James Ist put a ban on Glassmakers using charcoal for their furnaces in 1617 . He started work in Oldswinford, using local coal then moved to Amblecote and finally to the place called Brettell which was the centre of the coal field. The Henzey family made Brettell their main home and intermarried with the local families including the Brettell's. It was one of the Henzey's who changed the place-name Brettell to Hawbush
(information supplied by John Hemingway, Archaeological Officer, Dudley Archives)

More info on the origins of the Brettells can be found here:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.anc ... rigins.htm

That's great, many thanks Mary, do come back soon.

Best Wishes from Linell.

anne138 wrote:Thanks for the links - I'm not looking for anyone in particular Linell.
My brother mentioned Brettle today ( whilst we were looking for stone houses in Hasbury ! ) I read the Wiki post and wondered if it was made up, as I'd never heard of it before.

I think the Wiki Post is not one of the best. Have a look in our LINKS section, there are some great Web Sites on there.

Best Wishes from Linell.

Have located Hawbush, would it ever have been considered part of Halesowen rather than Stourbridge ?

Hi Anne, no Hawbush would not be Halesowen, from research that I have done, Cradley Halesowen did have a lot of Brettles, they seemed to be Baptist, there are quite a few in the Cradley Baptist Register not on the IGI, so anyone searching Pre 1837 wouldn't find them. Hope this helps from Linell.

Just realised there was a Brettle Town in Cradley 1841 Census

Linell.

Can you figure where this was from the census data - I didn't think Cradley was large enough to be considered a Town, let alone having another town within it. Or did 'town' have a slightly different meaning such as in Loamy Town ?

Hi Anne, yes Cradley was only a small Township, Brettle Town would be a local name, probably a small settlement of Brettles all huddled together in one small place, will see if I can find out where it was exactly, will ask around and get back to you. Linell.

Any help
Near Rod Mill
http://www.cradleylinks.com/field_and_h ... _1785.html

The 1851 Census has Brettell Town between Netherend and Cradley Forge, so it would have been on the Bank of the River Stour of which Quarry Bank Kingswinford is on the opposite bank. HTH from Linell.