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Sarah Tromans

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:55 am
by Northern Lass
Can we find her prior to marriage pls
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =742866930

I think this may be her

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =872738770

1851. New Town, Dudley
John Trowman, head, 42, Gun barrel Welder, Cradley Heath
Hannah, wife, 42, Rowley
William, son, 17, Five Ways
Sarah, daur, 12 Rowley
Joseph, son, 9, New Town
Hannah, daur, 5, New Town
Mary Ann, daur, 3, New Town

Re: Sarah Tromans

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:26 pm
by sparkstopper
The only two I can find on 1911 are:

1911...39 Church St. Old Hill.
Sarah Ann SIDAWAY hd. single 74 b. Rowley Regis.
and:
1911 11 Rhyl St. Featherstone, Yorks.
Daniel Price hd. 60 Coal Miner b. Netherton, Dudley
Mary Price wife 45 b. Droitwich
Sarah SIDDAWAY sister widow.71 b. Netherton, Dudley.

Don't think either are the one you want!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Sarah Tromans

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 2:01 pm
by Northern Lass
1851 Newtown Rowley Regis
James Sidaway Head 41 Chain Maker
Sarah Sidaway Wife 44
Joseph Sidaway Son 13 Trace Maker
Benjamin Sidaway Son 10 Trace Maker
Ruth Sidaway Daur 2
Mary Sidaway Lodger W 60
Rueben Smith Lodger 11 Trace Maker
All Born Rowley


next door

John Sidaway h m 39 labourer b Rowley Regis
Mary Sidaway wife m 40 b Wednesbury

now John Tromans father of Sarah marries a Hannah Woodall
From beta family search John Trueman Hannah Woodall marriage: 17 Mar 1833 - Kingswinford, Stafford, England

next door to John who is bro to James is
William Woodall h wid 56 born Rowley Regis
and his family

and then
Thomas Woodall h m 45 b Rowley

are they bros to hannah
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =905100704

if so I think we can connect up that Sarah Tromans to the Sarah on Bcc with father John

Re: Sarah Tromans

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 2:09 pm
by Northern Lass
getting close ......on other thread there is this witness

added by Jan from transcripts<br>31st March 1833 St Marys Kingswinford<br>
John Troman otp & Hannah Woodall otp<br>
Banns<br>
Wit :- Joseph Baker,/ Hannah Sidaway<br><br>

Hannah is born maybe 1810 around then

who does she connect to
maybe sister to james?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =239629001

cousin?

Re: Sarah Tromans

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 2:11 pm
by Northern Lass
Jimmy wrote:HANNAH SIDAWAY.
JOSEPH BAKER.
Marriage, 03 NOV 1833. Halesowen, Worcester.

Re: Sarah Tromans

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 2:22 pm
by Jimmy
1851. Bowling Green, Dudley.
Joseph Boker 37. Chain brightener. Rowley.
Hannah Boker 37.
Davis Sidaway 13. Nephew. David on image.
William Trowmans 28. Lodger.
Maria Trowmans 26. Lodger.

Others born Dudley.

Re: Sarah Tromans

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 2:25 pm
by Jimmy
1841. Primrose Hill, Dudley.
Joseph Baker 25. Furnace man.
Hannah Baker 25.

Both born in county.

Re: Sarah Tromans

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 2:25 pm
by sparkstopper
Northern Lass wrote:Who is that Samuel Tromans wit on marriage?

I think that the sarah here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =989433137

is this one
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =839083066

any one any thoughts?


Samuel TROWMAN b. 1838 Tracemaker living
in New Town, Dudley 1851 with father Soloman.

Sarah TROWMAN b. 1839 Gear maker also living
in New Town, Dudley 1851. with father John.

Re: Sarah Tromans

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 2:29 pm
by Northern Lass
Where is that from Sparks?

Re: Sarah Tromans

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 2:31 pm
by Northern Lass
See this

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =933621681

on 1851 we have

James Sidaway and wife Sarah smith son Benjamin
and couple of houses down
we have Thomas

did he marry Phebe Smith sister maybe of Sarah

any bapts for Hannah Woodall b abt 1810?
with bros Thomas and William

Re: Sarah Tromans

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 2:49 pm
by sparkstopper
Northern Lass wrote:Where is that from Sparks?


1851 New Town Dudley
Solomon TROWMAN hd. 40 Tracemaker
Sarah TROMAN wife 38
William TROWMAN son 16 Tracemaker
Zillah TROWMAN dau.15 Tracemaker
SAMUEL TROWMAN son 13 Tracemaker
Enos TROWMAN son 11 Tracemaker
Ellen TROWMAN dau. 9
Jonah TROWMAN son 6
Thomas TROWMAN son 4
Uriah TROWMAN son 2
Edwin TROWMAN son 4m b. Dud.Wood.
All others born Rowley

Already on Bcc...http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections
Solomon also married to a BAKER.

1851 New Town, Dudley
John TROWMAN hd. 42 Gun Barrel Welding b. Crad.Heath
Hannah TROWMAN wife 42 Gear Maker b. Row.Regis.
William TROWMAN son 17 Gear Maker b. Five Ways
SARAH TROWMAN dau. 12 Gear Maker b. Row.Regis.
Joseph TROWMAN son 9 Gear Maker b. New Town
Hannah TROWMAN dau.5 Schol. New Town
Mary Ann TROWMAN dau.3 b. New Town.

Re: Sarah Tromans

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:26 pm
by Northern Lass
I dont get the link with Samuel with father Solomon?

:?

Re: Sarah Tromans

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 5:08 pm
by Northern Lass
Jimmy wrote:1851. Bowling Green, Dudley.
Joseph Boker 37. Chain brightener. Rowley.
Hannah Boker 37.
Davis Sidaway 13. Nephew. David on image.
William Trowmans 28. Lodger.
Maria Trowmans 26. Lodger.

Others born Dudley.


DANIEL DARBY
Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZABETH SMITH
Marriage: 31 MAR 1834 Parish Church, Old Swinford, Worcester,
Form submitted


1841 at Bowling green Dudley
this couple with their kids and a DAvid Sidaway aged 3

again Smith connection

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =555043298

Re: Sarah Tromans

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 5:12 pm
by Jimmy
Northern Lass wrote:1851. New Town, Dudley
John Trowman, head, 42, Gun barrel Welder, Cradley Heath
Hannah, wife, 42, Rowley
William, son, 17, Five Ways
Sarah, daur, 12 Rowley
Joseph, son, 9, New Town
Hannah, daur, 5, New Town
Mary Ann, daur, 3, New Town


This looks like the same family, no Sarah.

1861. Bowling Green, Dudley.
John Tromans 53. Mar. Chainmaker. Rowley.
Joseph Tromans 18.
Hannah Tromans 15.
Mary Ann Tromans 13.

Others born Dudley.

Re: Sarah Tromans

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 5:15 pm
by Northern Lass
Ok do Sarah Smith
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =436320965

Phebe Smith
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =676229211

and a Thomas Smith witness at James Sidaway and Sarah Smith marriage

and Elizabeth Smith
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... i=11719129

link
and do they have a mother Mary aged 75 on 1851

1851: Halesowen Road, Dudley
next to Westwoods and Smiths.
Daniel Darby 36 Head Nailer
Elizabeth Darby 36 Wife
Daniel Darby 13 Son
Mary Darby 10 Dau
Mary Smith 75 Wid who`s this? is it her mother
Joseph Darby 2 Son
all born Dudley