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Can we find him on census with wife ann pls in 1861

he marries in 1852

I think it may be this one
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... per-Family

but age bothers me

9th Feb 1852 St Thomas Dudley
James Harper of full age bach Farmer Dudley Edward Harper Farmer
Ann Stanton of full age spinster Dudley Matthew Stanton dead Publican
banns
X James Harper/ Ann signed
wit- Maria Grainger / Joseph Plant

1871 Holt Lane, Cakemore
HARPER, Edward Head M 72 1799 Worcestershire Farmer
HARPER, Mary Ann Daughter F 37 1834 Worcestershire
HARPER, Eliza Daughter F 27 1844 Worcestershire
HARPER, James Son M 45 1826 Worcestershire
ROBINS, Elizabeth Sister F 58 1813 Worcestershire

1861 Upper Holt, Lower Holt Lane, Cakemore
HARPER, James Head Married M 35 1826 Farmers Son Halesowen Worcestershire
HARPER, Mary A Wife Married F 31 1830 Rowley Staffordshire
HARPER, Mary A Daughter F 9 1852 Scholar Halesowen Cakemore Worcestershire
HARPER, Ellen Daughter F 5 1856 Scholar Halesowen Cakemore Worcestershire
HARPER, Caroline Daughter F 0 (1M) 1861 Halesowen Cakemore Worcestershire

1881 Lower Holt, Cakemore
HARPER, James Head Married M 54 1827 Farm Servant Halesowen Worcestershire
HARPER, Ellen Daughter Single F 25 1856 Cook Domestic Servant Cakemore Worcestershire
HARPER, Carline Daughter Single F 20 1861 Dress Maker Cakemore Worcestershire
HARPER, Joseph Son Single M 14 1867 Scholar Cakemore Worcestershire

Rest of family

1871 Holt Lane, Cakemore
HARPER, Mary Ann Wife F 41 1830 Worcestershire Labourer wife
HARPER, Mary Ann Daughter F 18 1853 Worcestershire
HARPER, Caroline Daughter F 10 1861 Worcestershire
HARPER, Joseph Son M 4 1867 Worcestershire

Maths girl wrote:1871 Holt Lane, Cakemore
HARPER, Edward Head M 72 1799 Worcestershire Farmer
HARPER, Mary Ann Daughter F 37 1834 Worcestershire
HARPER, Eliza Daughter F 27 1844 Worcestershire
HARPER, James Son M 45 1826 Worcestershire
ROBINS, Elizabeth Sister F 58 1813 Worcestershire

1861 Upper Holt, Lower Holt Lane, Cakemore
HARPER, James Head Married M 35 1826 Farmers Son Halesowen Worcestershire
HARPER, Mary A Wife Married F 31 1830 Rowley Staffordshire
HARPER, Mary A Daughter F 9 1852 Scholar Halesowen Cakemore Worcestershire
HARPER, Ellen Daughter F 5 1856 Scholar Halesowen Cakemore Worcestershire
HARPER, Caroline Daughter F 0 (1M) 1861 Halesowen Cakemore Worcestershire

this isnt sinking in......so that Edward b 1799 is this one?

and James is with Mary ann...maybe stanton ie ann stanton
in 1861 but with father in 1871
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... per-Family

Northern Lass wrote:

Maths girl wrote:1871 Holt Lane, Cakemore
HARPER, Edward Head M 72 1799 Worcestershire Farmer
HARPER, Mary Ann Daughter F 37 1834 Worcestershire
HARPER, Eliza Daughter F 27 1844 Worcestershire
HARPER, James Son M 45 1826 Worcestershire
ROBINS, Elizabeth Sister F 58 1813 Worcestershire

1861 Upper Holt, Lower Holt Lane, Cakemore
HARPER, James Head Married M 35 1826 Farmers Son Halesowen Worcestershire
HARPER, Mary A Wife Married F 31 1830 Rowley Staffordshire
HARPER, Mary A Daughter F 9 1852 Scholar Halesowen Cakemore Worcestershire
HARPER, Ellen Daughter F 5 1856 Scholar Halesowen Cakemore Worcestershire
HARPER, Caroline Daughter F 0 (1M) 1861 Halesowen Cakemore Worcestershire

this isnt sinking in......so that Edward b 1799 is this one?

and James is with Mary ann...maybe stanton ie ann stanton
in 1861 but with father in 1871
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... per-Family

Yes but MAry ann is only two doors away -- was it lambing season??

So is Mary ann a Mary ann and just drops the Mary on marriage

is there a bapt?

Don't know -- there is this marraige in 1853

HARPER James BRUERTON Mary A Dudley, St Edmund Dudley Register Office 201/002/162
so first marriage could have been very short?!

Could this be Ann ?
1851 Village Rowley Regis
Honor Stainton Head Widow 47 Inn Keeper Born Rowley
Samuel Stainton Son 23 Butcher Born Rowley
Ann Stainton Daur 21 Dress maker Born Rowley
Phebe Stainton Daur 16 Pawn Broker Born Rowley
Caroline Stainton Daur 15 Born Rowley
Elizabeth Stainton Daur 12 Scholar Born Rowley

1841 Village Rowley Regis
Matthew Stanton 40 Publican Not born in County
Honor Stanton 35
Joseph Stanton 15
Samuel Stanton 10
Phoebe Stanton 6
Caroline Stanton 5
Elizabeth Stanton 4
Sarah Stanton 6
Others born in County

not sure when matthew married Phebe

and need to sort the kids out but Mary ann is Ann

IGI
Mary Ann Stainton Birth: 17 SEP 1829 Village
Christening: 03 MAY 1830 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Parents:
Father: Matthew Stainton
Mother: Phebe Stainton Extracted

and in transcripts...

3 May 1830 St Giles Rowley Regis
Mary Ann born Sep 17 1829 d of Matthew and Phebe Stainton Village Victualler

will run as Stainton and keep 2 names Stanton and Stainton on BCC

and Joseph is son too

Joseph Stainton
Birth: Village
Christening: 25 MAY 1825 Rowley Regis, Stafford,
Parents:
Father: Matthew Stainton
Mother: Phebe Stainton Extracted

Parents Matthew and Honor

1. Sarah Staniton - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 25 OCT 1840 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England

2. Phebe Stainton - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 21 SEP 1834 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England

3. Caroline Stainton - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 10 JAN 1836 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England

4. Elizabeth Stainton - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 22 OCT 1837 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England

can anyone see a marriage for Matthew and honor