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Hi again

I bought the WDYTYA mag to get the West Midlands Ancestors disk and now I found the disk won't work, I can't access any records, only the initial images. Downloaded ADOBE Reader and it still won't work. The reason I wanted it was I desperately want to see if John James and his wife, Sarah are in the Staffordshire and Worcestershire 1835 as I can't get back any further than 1841 for this family. I wondered if someone had the disk could they have a quick look for me please?

Mini

minishant1 wrote:Hi again

I bought the WDYTYA mag to get the West Midlands Ancestors disk and now I found the disk won't work, I can't access any records, only the initial images. Downloaded ADOBE Reader and it still won't work. The reason I wanted it was I desperately want to see if John James and his wife, Sarah are in the Staffordshire and Worcestershire 1835 as I can't get back any further than 1841 for this family. I wondered if someone had the disk could they have a quick look for me please?

Mini

What exactly are you looking for mini - we have put them on BCC - back to Sarah's birth in 1828. I couldn't find any of them in 1841 - probably need to search a bit more.

??
1841. Clent
Joseph Green 45, Nailer, Born in County
Jane, 45, not born in county
Sarah, 13, born in County

grangers14 wrote:??
1841. Clent
Joseph Green 45, Nailer, Born in County
Jane, 45, not born in county
Sarah, 13, born in County

Yes thanks Grangers, that's the one - I'll add it now

minishant1 wrote:Hi again

I bought the WDYTYA mag to get the West Midlands Ancestors disk and now I found the disk won't work, I can't access any records, only the initial images. Downloaded ADOBE Reader and it still won't work. The reason I wanted it was I desperately want to see if John James and his wife, Sarah are in the Staffordshire and Worcestershire 1835 as I can't get back any further than 1841 for this family. I wondered if someone had the disk could they have a quick look for me please?

Mini

Your better off with the actual images, you can than make your own mind up as to what it says.

Linell.

Thanks Linell, the images are just of various places, I can't get any text at all.

The information I have is :
1841 Census: Romsley HO 107/923/7 Pages 5 (second section) - 13
Shropshire > Hales-Owen > Halesowen > District 10a
Census carried out on the night of 6 June 1841
Place Name Age Profession, trade, employ- Born in
ment, or independent means Same County

Place Name Age Profession, trade, employ- Born in Same County

Romsley Hill
John James 50 Ag Lab YSarah James 50 Y
Richard James 9 Y
William James 6 Y
Maria James 3 Y
Mary Hardeman 70 Y

Basically I'm trying to find whose John's parents were - could Mary Hardeman be his mother, re-married, as there was a John James christened on 23 November 1794 but only his mother's name was stated - Mary James. The ages all tie in but I don't know how to go about determining whether that is the correct John or not, as there were two or three others born during the few years around 1794. I thought the Worcestershire 1835 information might throw a little more light on where he was born, etc but of course, I can't access this info at all.

can someone post the link pls

is this that farmer one?

Is this it
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... mes-Family

Yes that's the right family, Jan and it is John the farmer I'm trying to find out more about.

minishant1 wrote:Yes that's the right family, Jan and it is John the farmer I'm trying to find out more about.

Ok so some q's

-where is JOhn James in 1841?
-do we have a bapt for John James
who marries Ann green?
-how do we know that those are John James parents?

The 1841 info posted above is a local census I think. This is from the general 1841 Census when I was looking for William, one of John's other sons:


1841 England Census
about William James
Name: William James
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1835
Gender: Male
Where born: Shropshire, England

Civil Parish: Hales Owen
Hundred: Brimstree (Hales Owen Division)
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

View image

Registration district: Stourbridge
Sub-registration district: Halesowen
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John James 50
Sarah James 50
Richard James 9
William James 6
Maria James 3

Because Richard, William and Maria were John James junior's(christened St Kenelms 1826) siblings. Sarah Green was John junior's wife and John James senior was also married to a Sarah but I don't know her christian name. All of the farmer's children were christened at St Kenelms, Romsley, Halesowen, during a period of about 1817 to 1839.

minishant1 wrote:Because Richard, William and Maria were John James junior's(christened St Kenelms 1826) siblings. Sarah Green was John junior's wife and John James senior was also married to a Sarah but I don't know her christian name. All of the farmer's children were christened at St Kenelms, Romsley, Halesowen, during a period of about 1817 to 1839.

So where is this JOhn James jnr in 1841

1851 : Bilston, Tipton, Staffs
John James, Head, 25, Forge Labourer, Born in Worcestershire
Sarah James, Wife, 23, Born in Staffordshire
Mary A James, Daur, 1, Born in Tipton


and how do you know that John James married to Sarah Green belongs to that family with brother Richard and sis Maria

have you looked up any bapts?

have you the bapt for John jnr?

I know it's the right family because my gran was Alice James. John James jnr was her father and so on. Her father, John was christened at St Kenelms as below, I have the Birth Certificate for Alice, which states her mother was Sarah Green from Clent. I don't know where young John was in 1841, he was probably working as he would have been at least fifteen by then. All his brothers and sisters were christened at St Kenelms.

John James

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

residence: Worcester, England
parents: John James, Sarah

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: John James
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 23 Apr 1826
baptism/christening place: SAINT KENELMS,ROMSLEY,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
father's name: John James
mother's name: Sarah
indexing project (batch) number: C05888-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 917045

minishant1 wrote:I know it's the right family because my gran was Alice James. John James jnr was her father and so on. Her father, John was christened at St Kenelms as below, I have the Birth Certificate for Alice, which states her mother was Sarah Green from Clent. I don't know where young John was in 1841, he was probably working as he would have been at least fifteen by then. All his brothers and sisters were christened at St Kenelms.

John James

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

residence: Worcester, England
parents: John James, Sarah

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: John James
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 23 Apr 1826
baptism/christening place: SAINT KENELMS,ROMSLEY,WORCESTER,ENGLAND
father's name: John James
mother's name: Sarah
indexing project (batch) number: C05888-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 917045

Have you looked this up to see if on bapt he is a farmer
and then looked up those other ones richard and maria was it
to see if fathers occup same

even then it doesnt prove it is same one

to me you can't be sure that that John James that marries Sarah Green
is the son of that one in Romsley

this looks more likely
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... mes-Family