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So I receive a will for David Jeptha

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =878745559

-- it points me in the direction of a second marriage for his daughter Rebecca that I/we would never have known about otherwise -- the first marriage produced no children and all started and finished in between census because he died and then she remarried before the next census under her first married name -- no wonder she seemed to disappear --

that is the good news the bad is there appears to be another sister that I knew nothing about and can find out nothing about.

He appears in his will to go through his daughter's chronologically but the first mentioned is a Hannah Tromans -- I think possibly married to a William Tromans Cordwainer and witness to the Will or more likely his son? Thomas stated as living in one of the houses that she is left.

David's marriage to Rebecca Willetts is credited as occurring in 1810 while Jane is down as being born 1811/1812 so Hannah could have been born before Jane -- but while I have found Christenings for the other four children on IGI there appears to be no mention of her being Christened or married or anything?

or was she an illegitimate daughter brought up under her step fathers name but acknowledged by him in the end.

Any thoughts /help greatly appreciated.

Extracted,
DAVID JEPTHA.
REBECCA WILLETTS.
Marriage, 16 SEP 1810. Halesowen, Worcester.

David Jeptha Bach otp and Rebecca Willetts sp otp. By Banns, Witnesses were Wm and Hannah Tromans. Wm Tromans and David Jeptha, signed.

Hope this helps MG

Linell.

linell wrote:David Jeptha Bach otp and Rebecca Willetts sp otp. By Banns, Witnesses were Wm and Hannah Tromans. Wm Tromans and David Jeptha, signed.

Hope this helps MG

Linell.

thanks Lin
I will add that to BCC the marriage was in notes but not in templates
will add this to notes

MG have added those marriages to list

linell wrote:David Jeptha Bach otp and Rebecca Willetts sp otp. By Banns, Witnesses were Wm and Hannah Tromans. Wm Tromans and David Jeptha, signed.

Hope this helps MG

Linell.

Thank you Linell -- It certainly gives a suggestion of a close friendship between William Tromans and David that appears to have lasted a lifetime if it is the same one that witnessed his will -- and so naming a daughter after his wife would not be a silly connection -- but where is the proof that Hannah (daughter) actually existed except as a beneficiary under his will?

Hi NL and MG, anything else Halesowen or Cradley up to 1837 just give me a shout.

Is it worth me searching Halesowen St John's for a bap for Hannah MG

Linell.

linell wrote:Hi NL and MG, anything else Halesowen or Cradley up to 1837 just give me a shout.

Is it worth me searching Halesowen St John's for a bap for Hannah MG

Linell.

two of the possible siblings are Cradley

later two St Thomas Dudley

If Hannah was first in 1809- 1811 she could have been Halesowen as that is where the marriage is! If it is not too much trouble -- could she have been Hannah Willetts ? and hence does not appear as Hannah Jeptha but treated as a daughter?

Hi MG, just had a look at Cradley, Jane and Elizabeth's baps are there, says da of David and Rebecca Jeptha, Nailer RR.
Also found a burial for a Wm Jeptha 21.5.1826 aged 71
Burial for Rebekah Jeptha 21.1.1810 no age given.

They are the only Jeptha's listed, so must be the same family. Will have a look at Halesowen.

Linell.

Hi MG, found this Marriage at Halesowen:-

23.3.1806 Wm Jeptha otp Widower and Mary Smith X otp Spinster by Banns.
Witnesses George Smith and Church Warden Richard Fiddian.

I presume this must be the same Wm who died aged 71 in 1826. Mary was probably younger being as she was a spinster, I wonder if Hannah was their daughter, who was maybe orphaned

Linell.

Nothing obvious for a Hannah Willetts, I think she was Wm and Mary's daughter

Linell.

linell wrote:Hi MG, found this Marriage at Halesowen:-

23.3.1806 Wm Jeptha otp Widower and Mary Smith X otp Spinster by Banns.
Witnesses George Smith and Church Warden Richard Fiddian.

I presume this must be the same Wm who died aged 71 in 1826. Mary was probably younger being as she was a spinster, I wonder if Hannah was their daughter, who was maybe orphaned

Linell.

That is certainly a possibility for why the others were baptised and she was not but doesn't explain why there doesn't seem to be a marriage either -- they seem to have been a reasonably conservative family with the normal rituals all round. Maybe it is one we will never solve

Thank you for all your efforts though as that will add to my list of records about the Jeptha's

HI MG, Rebekah Jeptha who was buried in 1810 could have been another daughter of Wm and Mary Neither she nor Hannah were baptised at Cradley. BUT that doesn't mean they weren't baptised in another Church/Chapel, not all records have survived unfortunately, my point is that they could well have been baptised somewhere. I know from my own tree, that there are missing Marriages, I have a few couples whom I can find no Marriages for, just wanted to point this out, from Linell.

linell wrote:HI MG, Rebekah Jeptha who was buried in 1810 could have been another daughter of Wm and Mary Neither she nor Hannah were baptised at Cradley. BUT that doesn't mean they weren't baptised in another Church/Chapel, not all records have survived unfortunately, my point is that they could well have been baptised somewhere. I know from my own tree, that there are missing Marriages, I have a few couples whom I can find no Marriages for, just wanted to point this out, from Linell.

yes I wsa thinking that Rebekah could have been the reason they married and then she died young. --- if we cold find all the answers it would take away some of the satisfaction when we solved the ones we can.

I have found a possible Thomas and Hannah family -- who had some children after the 1837 certificates date so when I am feeling rich and want some retail therapy I might send for one to see if I can confirm the mother's maiden name -- it won't tell me her parentage but at least I will know if I have the right tromans family!

Thank you again for all you help with this.