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Do you believe in Ghosts?

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:28 pm
by snoopysue
A danish survey has revealed that 20% of Danes believe in ghosts!

I believe people see something, probably not what we traditionally think of as ghosts. It maybe something in the way our brains work, or it may have a more metaphysical origin - but there is something! It's just a case of science not knowing the answer, and therefore a lot of people dismiss ghosts as figments of the imagination!!

Re: Do you believe in Ghosts?

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:41 pm
by kdp
Dont know about ghosts, tho I know some completely rational people who have claimed to see them. But I think I do beleive in some kind of presence, wether that be our sub-conscious helping us to deal with loss I dont know. I've never seen a ghost but I have had some very strange experiences..

ie, The weirdest one for me...Not long after my dad died, I was working behind a bar, and driving home quite late. When I swear I heard my Dad, he told me to look after my mom, after a weird moment I replied that she was fine (we thought she was coping well). He told me she wasn't. I found out the next day, after some questioning, that my mom hadnt been to bed since he had died and she really wasnt coping as well as thought...

Was that ghostly I dont know?? :?:
Was it my conscience and the effect of a late night and my own loss?? :?:

Re: Do you believe in Ghosts?

Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:16 pm
by MarkCDodd
Seen them, heard them. I know they exist and any sceptic who tells me otherwise is simply somebody who has not had the experience.

I don't believe they try to contact us or have any cognitive powers.

They are simply loops of time that can be seen and heard under certain circumstances.

There is plenty of hard science that supports this possibility but we lack the final piece of knowledge to fully explain the phenomena.

If you study reported ghosts then the vast majority are simply going about normal daily tasks.

They are not doing the things you see in horror movies.

I believe that Déjà vu is probably related to the same physical laws.

Re: Do you believe in Ghosts?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:38 pm
by snoopysue
I've never properly experienced deja vu, it's always been a feeling of recognition of what's happening without anything concrete or definate.

Re: Do you believe in Ghosts?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:37 pm
by Northern Lass
I have all the time

did I just say that :?

No I do!
I think Mark is rite it is a loopy hole in space,

Re: Do you believe in Ghosts?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 6:50 pm
by snoopysue
Northern Lass wrote:I have all the time

did I just say that :?

No I do!
I think Mark is rite it is a loopy hole in space,


I heard a proper physics theory once, something to do with parallel universes - maybe that's part of the answer.

Also half heard something on the box a couple of weeks ago (husband was talking at me at the time!). Every atom has a partner, and these atoms can be in one of two states, they sort of hover between these two states (as though they can't make up their mind which one to chose). When they do commit to one of these states the partner atom (which could be anywhere in the universe, and not necesarily next to the original atom) automatically has the other state! Sounds weird, and I can't explain it as good as the man on the telly - hope you get my drift!!

Have a feeling that science will find the answer in the end!!

Re: Do you believe in Ghosts?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:01 pm
by Antie Em
I don't think there will ever be an answer, it's a question that is impossible to prove. Most people at some time in there life will have an "experience" and not really know if it was imagination or if it really happened. Most of the time people don't say anything for fear of being ridiculed. I do believe that if you are visited by someone you have loved, it's usually for a reason.

Re: Do you believe in Ghosts?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:18 pm
by snoopysue
I remember my maternal nan telling me that I'd be visited by my paternal grandfather when I was ill in hospital!
I can't remember a thing mind you, and my nan was a bit scatty!
I'd just regained conciousness after meningitis, and my parents and nan were there. The doctor asked if I recognised the people standing next to him (my folks). I apparently answered that it was grandad (who'd been dead about 5 years). Nan told me about this some months afterwards - she reconed my grandad had been watching over me, but said it was probably best not to say anything to my parents, so I never asked them. I know if I asked them now they wouldn't remember.
I've always been a bit unsure of that tale, probably because it was my nan who told me - but also because I don't remember it at all (and didn't when nan told me either).

Re: Do you believe in Ghosts?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:38 pm
by kdp
So its highly probable then, from what you've all said that I did hear my dad..It was as though he was sitting next to me, not just in my head, thats a really nice thought :P

Re: Do you believe in Ghosts?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:41 pm
by Antie Em
kdp wrote:So its highly probable then, from what you've all said that I did hear my dad..It was as though he was sitting next to me, not just in my head, thats a really nice thought :P


Always believe what you hear - even if other people don't. I lost my dad 11 years ago and my mom says she talks to him every night - she's not losing her marbles and it makes her feel good so who are we to disagree.

Re: Do you believe in Ghosts?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 7:46 pm
by snoopysue
I've never been very religious, and don't really believe in an afterlife - but I do believe in ghosts. I mean if wormholes can transport things from one side of the galaxy to the other, why can't there be time loops that enable contact with the dead?

Re: Do you believe in Ghosts?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:45 pm
by SRD
There was an interesting play on Radio 4 the other day about a stage magician who also spent time debunking mediums. The bottom line was that the contacts with 'spirits on the other side' were really a sensitivity on behalf of the 'medium' to the subject in front of them.

I have never experienced anything ghostly but have been in the presence of others who claim to be having experiences of ghostly happenings whilst I have felt, seen or heard nothing untoward.

Re: Do you believe in Ghosts?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:23 pm
by MarkCDodd
Snoopsysue has mentioned one of my favorite nerdy pastimes......Quantum Physics.

The theory that two particles are be somehow connected across any distance is called entanglement.

No matter what the distance, the physical effects on one particle will be measureable on the other particle.

Normal entanglement would not explain ghosts as that only covers distance.

It does allow for faster than light commmunication though.

Some scientists in Queensland have released a study that shows entanglement across time.

Still doesn't help with ghosts but certainly helps with theoretical time travel.

Parrallel universes don't help either as there very nature means they can't be viewed from another universe.

But every year they discover more about the universe and an explanation will present itself eventually.

Re: Do you believe in Ghosts?

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:03 am
by Antie Em
I have four sisters and we have always been very close. It's really wierd that we all know by "instinct" when there is something wrong with one of the others. Very often I will be thinking about one of them and just about to pick up the phone to have a chat and the phone will ring and it will be the sister I was thinking about. I wonder how many people this happens to and how many put it down to coincidence.

When my daughter was younger, we would often communicate just by thinking. It never happened when we were trying, only when we weren't thinking about it. One night when we were wrapping Christmas presents, we ran out of selotape and Lisa went into the dining room to look through the drawers for some more. I thought I'd heard here ask where I had put it and I shouted - it's in the third drawer down in the cupboard by the window. Her dad looked around and said - what is - and I said - the selotape. He swore Lisa hadn't said a thing and when she came in with the selotape, he asked her if she had said anything when she was in the other room. She said she hadn't but was thinking - I wonder where mom's put the selotape. It really used to freak her dad.

I know myself that there is something, I don't know what it is and don't really care if it is never explained, I just know it's there and it makes me feel good. :-)

And d'you know what the best thing about this family history lark is - I now really know and love ancestors who I have never met.

Re: Do you believe in Ghosts?

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:38 am
by MarkCDodd
My Mum knew her father had died without being told by phone.

She hadn't spoken to him since we had been living in Australia.

He had been altered by his experiences in WWII and was very cruel to my mother and grandmother after he returned.

She waited all day for the telegram to arrive from England.

When it did arrive she signed for it but didn't open it till I got one of the neighbours to come over.

She told our neighbour she thought her father had died because she dreamed of him saying sorry and goodbye.

She asked the neigbour to open and read the telegram and it confirmed he had died the day before.

Mum is always doing things like that. I remember her panicking and saying something was wrong with my eldest brother back in the early 70's and my father believing her because of previous experiences.

Sure enough, the Police turned up a little while later to say he had been knocked off his bicycle and was in hospital.

Mum used to read tea leaves. She gave that up after this incident as she had told her friend to watch out for her eldest child having an accident not knowing that the tea cups had been swapped over for a laugh.

So there is this uncanny ability that some people have but the world is so full of frauds the average person is tricked by magicians rather than real "psychics".