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William Neale / Elizabeth Poole

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:21 pm
by peterd
look up done by maggie

06.03.1898 - Holy Trinity, Old Hill - By Banns
William Neale, 24, B, Labourer, of Waterfall Lane, No father recorded
Elizabeth Poole, 22, S, of Waterfall Lane, Father Joseph Poole, Labourer
Wit : Thomas Crane and Kate Tibbetts


bcc
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =946158988


can we find them in 1901 and 1911 census please

Re: William Neale / Elizabeth Poole - Holy Trinity, Old Hill

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:51 pm
by Maths girl
1901 63, Oldbury Road, Rowley Regis
POOLE, Joseph Head Married M 51 1850 Tube Maker Halesowen Worcestershire England
POOLE, Jemia Wife Married F 51 1850 Dudley Worcestershire
POOLE, William Son Single M 15 1886 Blackheath Staffordshire
NEALE, William Boarder Married M 27 1874 Labour Chemical Wks Halesowen Worcestershire
NEALE, Elizabeth Boarder Married F 25 1876 Blackheath Staffordshire
NEALE, Joseph Boarder M 3 1898 Blackheath Staffordshire
NEALE, Elizabeth Boarder F 0 (3 MOS) 1901 Blackheath Staffordshire

1911 56 Oldbury Road Blackheath B'ham
NEALE, Elizabeth Head Widow F 36 1875 Domestic Work Oldbury Rd Blackheath Staffs
NEALE, Joseph Son M 12 1899 School Oldbury Rd Blackheath Staffs
NEALE, Rebbeca Daughter F 10 1901 School Oldbury Rd Blackheath Staffs
NEALE, Charles Henry Son M 8 1903 School Oldbury Rd Blackheath Staffs
NEALE, John Thomas Son M 6 1905 School Oldbury Rd Blackheath Staffs

Crossed out 13 years married 4 children all living

Re: William Neale / Elizabeth Poole - Holy Trinity, Old Hill

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:30 pm
by peterd
Maths girl wrote:1901 63, Oldbury Road, Rowley Regis
POOLE, Joseph Head Married M 51 1850 Tube Maker Halesowen Worcestershire England
POOLE, Jemia Wife Married F 51 1850 Dudley Worcestershire
POOLE, William Son Single M 15 1886 Blackheath Staffordshire
NEALE, William Boarder Married M 27 1874 Labour Chemical Wks Halesowen Worcestershire
NEALE, Elizabeth Boarder Married F 25 1876 Blackheath Staffordshire
NEALE, Joseph Boarder M 3 1898 Blackheath Staffordshire
NEALE, Elizabeth Boarder F 0 (3 MOS) 1901 Blackheath Staffordshire



1881: 63 Oldbury Rd Blackheath, Rowley Regis, Stafford

Joseph POOLE Boarder Son (Head) 31 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Rivet Maker
Jemimah POOLE Wife 31 Dudley, Worcester, Nailmaker
Elizabeth POOLE 4 Rowley, Stafford, Scholar
Phoebe POOLE 9 m Rowley, Stafford,

bcc updated

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ole-Family

any other census for joseph and jemimah please

Re: William Neale / Elizabeth Poole - Holy Trinity, Old Hill

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:58 pm
by FarSide
peterd wrote:
Maths girl wrote:1901 63, Oldbury Road, Rowley Regis
POOLE, Joseph Head Married M 51 1850 Tube Maker Halesowen Worcestershire England
POOLE, Jemia Wife Married F 51 1850 Dudley Worcestershire
POOLE, William Son Single M 15 1886 Blackheath Staffordshire
NEALE, William Boarder Married M 27 1874 Labour Chemical Wks Halesowen Worcestershire
NEALE, Elizabeth Boarder Married F 25 1876 Blackheath Staffordshire
NEALE, Joseph Boarder M 3 1898 Blackheath Staffordshire
NEALE, Elizabeth Boarder F 0 (3 MOS) 1901 Blackheath Staffordshire



1881: 63 Oldbury Rd Blackheath, Rowley Regis, Stafford

Joseph POOLE Boarder Son (Head) 31 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Rivet Maker
Jemimah POOLE Wife 31 Dudley, Worcester, Nailmaker
Elizabeth POOLE 4 Rowley, Stafford, Scholar
Phoebe POOLE 9 m Rowley, Stafford,

bcc updated

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ole-Family

any other census for joseph and jemimah please



1891
63 Oldbury Road, Rowley
Joseph Poole 43 - Rivet maker bolt - b Halesowen
Jemima Poole 43 - Nailmaker - b Dudley
Phobe Poole 10
William Poole 4
others b Rowley

Re: William Neale / Elizabeth Poole - Holy Trinity, Old Hill

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:21 pm
by FarSide
Poss William
1881
Hurst Green, Cakemore
Charles Neal 69 - Nailmaker - b Halesowen
Elizabeth Neal 59 - Nailmaker - b Halesowen
Elizabeth Neal 32 - daug - unm - Nailmaker
Joseph Neal 30 - son - unm - Nailmaker
Alfred Neal 21 - son - unm - Nailmaker
William Neal 8 - grandson
others b Cakemore

Re: William Neale / Elizabeth Poole - Holy Trinity, Old Hill

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:31 am
by beardie
Maths girl wrote:1911 56 Oldbury Road Blackheath B'ham
NEALE, Elizabeth Head Widow F 36 1875 Domestic Work Oldbury Rd Blackheath Staffs
NEALE, Joseph Son M 12 1899 School Oldbury Rd Blackheath Staffs
NEALE, Rebbeca Daughter F 10 1901 School Oldbury Rd Blackheath Staffs
NEALE, Charles Henry Son M 8 1903 School Oldbury Rd Blackheath Staffs
NEALE, John Thomas Son M 6 1905 School Oldbury Rd Blackheath Staffs

Crossed out 13 years married 4 children all living


joseph william neale of 56 oldbury road is listed in the rowley regis roll of honour (blackheath ward)

cwgc details
http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_det ... lty=831989

Re: William Neale / Elizabeth Poole - Holy Trinity, Old Hill

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:16 pm
by peterd
FarSide wrote:Poss William
1881
Hurst Green, Cakemore
Charles Neal 69 - Nailmaker - b Halesowen
Elizabeth Neal 59 - Nailmaker - b Halesowen
Elizabeth Neal 32 - daug - unm - Nailmaker
Joseph Neal 30 - son - unm - Nailmaker
Alfred Neal 21 - son - unm - Nailmaker
William Neal 8 - grandson
others b Cakemore



updated bcc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =998437332


could this be the same william neale ?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ale-Family

Re: William Neale / Elizabeth Poole - Holy Trinity, Old Hill

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:37 pm
by FarSide
could this be the same william neale ?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ale-Family


Marriage 8 Oct 1871, St Johns Halesowen

Thomas Neal, 21, bachelor, Rivetmaker, Hill, father Samuel Neal, Rivetmaker
Amplias Dearn, 21, spin, Nailer, Hasbury, father unknown
Wit - David Cutler & Hannah Cutler

Submitted
Amphillis DEARN
Birth: 28 JAN 1850 Warley Salop, Worcester
Parents:
Father: Thomas CUTLER
Mother: Ann DEARNE

Re: William Neale / Elizabeth Poole - Holy Trinity, Old Hill

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:06 pm
by peterd
Submitted
Amphillis DEARN
Birth: 28 JAN 1850 Warley Salop, Worcester
Parents:
Father: Thomas CUTLER
Mother: Ann DEARNE


poss ?

1881 New Engd, The Hill, Worcester

Thomas CUTLER 56 Halesowen, Worcester, General Laborer
Ann CUTLER 50 Halesowen, Worcester,
William CUTLER Son 19 Halesowen, Worcester, Rivet Maker
Emily CUTLER Daur 17 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Maker
Kate CUTLER Daur 15 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Maker
Christopher CUTLER 12 Halesowen, Worcester,
Timothy DUNE Bro In Law 56 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Maker
Sarah TOY Lodger W 82 Halesowen, Worcester,

previous house

1881: New England, The Hill, Worc

Thomas Neal 31 Rivet Maker
Ample (Amples on image) Neal 30
William Neal 8
David Neal 7
Albert Neal 6 mths
(all born Halesowen)

anyone find 1871,61 etc please

Re: William Neale / Elizabeth Poole - Holy Trinity, Old Hill

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 10:13 pm
by FarSide
Submitted
Thomas CUTLER
Christening: 17 OCT 1824 Warley Salop, Worcester
Marriages:
Spouse: Ann DEARNE
Marriage: 23 OCT 1853 Quinton, , Worcester

Re: William Neale / Elizabeth Poole - Holy Trinity, Old Hill

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:02 pm
by FarSide
1841
Warley
Mary Dewin 50 - Nailer
Luensea Dewin 20
James Dewin 15
Timothy Dewin 15
Mary Dewin 14
Ann Dewin 11
Lineows Dewin 8

next door
Elizabth Dearn 70 - Pauper - n b in c

next door
Ann Dearn 75 - Pauper
George Dearn 30 - Nailer
Sarah Dearn 25 - n b in c
James Dearn 13
Emma Dearn 11
Hannah Dearn 8
Eliza Dearn 6

others b in c

1851
Rats? Castle, Warley
Timothy Dearn 26
Ann Dearn 21 - Sister - unm - Nailer
Amplies Dearn 1
Linnean Dearn 17 - Br (poss boarder) - Receiving relief nailer

next door
Ann Dearn 87 - Widow - Receiving relief nailer
George Dearn 48 - son - Nailer - b Authorpe?, Worcestershire
Sarah Dearn 36 - dau in law - Nailer - b Smethwick
Eliza Dearn 16 - granddaug - Nailer
Ann Maria Dearn 6 - granddaug

George Dearn & Sarah on BCC
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... rne-Family

next door
Elizabeth Dearn 79 - Receiving relief nailer - b NK
Henery Dearn 13 - grandson - Nailer - b Birmingham

wonder if this is her future hubby next door
John Outler 52 - Ag labourer
Lucy Outler 52 - Nailer
Thomas Outler 26 - unm - File cutter
Mary Ann Outler 24 - Nailer
James Outler 16 - Ag labourer
Eliza Outler 14
Hannah Outler 12
David Outler 9
John Outler 7

all others b Warley

1861
Castle lane, private, Warley
Timothy Deam 37 - (looks like unm) - Nailer
Linsom Deam 27 - (looks like unm) - receiving pay from Parish
Thomas Cutlar 37 - bro in law - Farmers lab
Ann Cutlar 31 - sister - mar - Nailer
Amplie Cutlar 11 - Niece in law
Mary A Cutlar 7 - Niece
Thomas Cutlar 4 - Nephew
James Cutlar 2 - Nephew
William Cutlar 6 MO - Nephew
all b Castle Lane

1871
Long Lane, Hill
Thos Cutler 45 - Labourer
Ann Cutler 46 - Nailmaker
Amplus Cutler 21 - Nailmaker
Mary Ann Cutler 17 - Nailmaker
Thos Cutler 18 - Nailmaker
James Cutler 14 - Nailmaker
William Cutler 8
Emily Cutler 6
Katy Cutler 5
Christopher Cutler 3
all b Warley

Re: William Neale / Elizabeth Poole - Holy Trinity, Old Hill

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:59 am
by FarSide
Poss Thomas

Nailmakers not Rivetmakers??

1851
Spies Lane, Lapal
Samuel Nail 20 - Nailer
Maryann Nail 20 - Nailer - b Waltroeeta?, Gloucestershire
Thomas Terdina Nail 1 (could be Sardina)
others b Halesowen

poss birth
1849
NEALE Thomas S Halesowen Dudley Register Office HAL/009/126

1861
Long lane, Hill
Samuel Neale 30 - Nailmaker - b Ridgeacre
Mary Ann Neale 30 - Nailmaker - b Gloucestershire, Helford?
Thomas Neale 11 - Nailmaker - b Lappal
Fanny Neale 9 - b Hill
Alice Neale 6 - b Hill
Sarah Neale 2 - b Halesowen
Mary Ann Neale 1 MO - b Hill

1871
Long Lane, Hill
Saml Niel 41 - Nailmaker
Mary Ann Niel 41 - Nailmaker
Thos Niel 21 - son - widow - Nailmaker
Alice Niel 75 (15 on image) - Nailmaker
Sarrah Niel 12 - Nailmaker
William Niel 8
Saml Niel 5
Mary Ann Niel 2
Fanny Niel 6 Months
all b Long Lane

1881
New Eng, The Hill (on same page as Cutlers & Thomas & Amplias)
Mary A. Neal 50 - Mar - Nailmaker - b Evesham
Alice Neal 25 - Nailmaker
Sarah Neal 22 - Nailmaker
William Neal 18 - Rivetmaker
Samuel Neal 15 - Nailmaker
Mary A. Neal 12
Thomas Neal 5 - grandson

bro William marriage
Halesowen
25 May 1885
William Neale, 22, bachelor, rivetmaker, Long Lane, Father Samuel Neale, Rivetmaker
Mary Swain, 20, spin, domestic, Long Lane, Father William Swain, Green grocer
Wit - Samuel Neale & Julia Swain

Swains on BCC
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ine-Family

1891
New England, Long Lane, The Hill
Samuel Neale 60 - Boiler? rivetmaker - b Quinton
Mary A Neale 60 - b Winterbourne, Worcestershire
Samuel Neale 25 - Boiler? rivetmaker
Thomas Neale 15 - grandson - Blower for rivetmaker
others b New England

1901
New England, Hill
Samuel Neale 70 - Mar - Boat rivetmaker - b Halesowen
Alice Neale 58 - Nailmaker - b Old Hill
Annie Guest 15 - stepdaug - Gold & Silver polisher - b Halesowen

Re: William Neale / Elizabeth Poole - Holy Trinity, Old Hill

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:35 am
by FarSide
peterd wrote:
Submitted
Amphillis DEARN
Birth: 28 JAN 1850 Warley Salop, Worcester
Parents:
Father: Thomas CUTLER
Mother: Ann DEARNE


poss ?

1881 New Engd, The Hill, Worcester

Thomas CUTLER 56 Halesowen, Worcester, General Laborer
Ann CUTLER 50 Halesowen, Worcester,
William CUTLER Son 19 Halesowen, Worcester, Rivet Maker
Emily CUTLER Daur 17 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Maker
Kate CUTLER Daur 15 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Maker
Christopher CUTLER 12 Halesowen, Worcester,
Timothy DUNE Bro In Law 56 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Maker
Sarah TOY Lodger W 82 Halesowen, Worcester,

previous house

1881: New England, The Hill, Worc

Thomas Neal 31 Rivet Maker
Ample (Amples on image) Neal 30
William Neal 8
David Neal 7
Albert Neal 6 mths
(all born Halesowen)

anyone find 1871,61 etc please


1891
Reddings Street, Rowley
Thomas Neale 41 - Rivetmaker
Amphlis Neale 41
William Neale 18 - Rivetmaker
David Neale 17 - Rivetmaker
Albert Neale 10
Elizabeth Neale 6 - b Rowley
Joseph Neale 5 - b Rowley
Frederick Neale 3 - b Rowley
Walter Neale 1 - b Rowley
others b Halesowen

1901
4 Spring Meadow, Rowley
Thomas Neale 51 - Bolt maker - b Halesowen
Anplias Neale 51 - b Rockberry Castle, Warley
Albert Neale 20 - Gas hook maker - b Halesowen
Elizabeth Neale 16 - Gas hook maker
Joseph Neale 15 - Gas hook maker
Fred Neale 13 - Gas hook maker
Mary Neale 9
Lily Neale 5
others b Old Hill

Re: William Neale / Elizabeth Poole - Holy Trinity, Old Hill

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:46 pm
by peterd
FarSide wrote:
peterd wrote:
Submitted
Amphillis DEARN
Birth: 28 JAN 1850 Warley Salop, Worcester
Parents:
Father: Thomas CUTLER
Mother: Ann DEARNE


poss ?

1881 New Engd, The Hill, Worcester

Thomas CUTLER 56 Halesowen, Worcester, General Laborer
Ann CUTLER 50 Halesowen, Worcester,
William CUTLER Son 19 Halesowen, Worcester, Rivet Maker
Emily CUTLER Daur 17 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Maker
Kate CUTLER Daur 15 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Maker
Christopher CUTLER 12 Halesowen, Worcester,
Timothy DUNE Bro In Law 56 Halesowen, Worcester, Nail Maker
Sarah TOY Lodger W 82 Halesowen, Worcester,

previous house

1881: New England, The Hill, Worc

Thomas Neal 31 Rivet Maker
Ample (Amples on image) Neal 30
William Neal 8
David Neal 7
Albert Neal 6 mths
(all born Halesowen)

anyone find 1871,61 etc please


1891
Reddings Street, Rowley
Thomas Neale 41 - Rivetmaker
Amphlis Neale 41
William Neale 18 - Rivetmaker
David Neale 17 - Rivetmaker
Albert Neale 10
Elizabeth Neale 6 - b Rowley
Joseph Neale 5 - b Rowley
Frederick Neale 3 - b Rowley
Walter Neale 1 - b Rowley
others b Halesowen

1901
4 Spring Meadow, Rowley
Thomas Neale 51 - Bolt maker - b Halesowen
Anplias Neale 51 - b Rockberry Castle, Warley
Albert Neale 20 - Gas hook maker - b Halesowen
Elizabeth Neale 16 - Gas hook maker
Joseph Neale 15 - Gas hook maker
Fred Neale 13 - Gas hook maker
Mary Neale 9
Lily Neale 5
others b Old Hill



if this is william neale family why would he put no father on marrige cert as he still alive in 1901 ?


06.03.1898 - Holy Trinity, Old Hill - By Banns

William Neale, 24, B, Labourer, of Waterfall Lane, No father recorded
Elizabeth Poole, 22, S, of Waterfall Lane, Father Joseph Poole, Labourer

Wit : Thomas Crane and Kate Tibbetts

Re: William Neale / Elizabeth Poole - Holy Trinity, Old Hill

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:16 am
by FarSide
Sorry for the confusion, it's the way I post abit like a mad mans knitting :roll:
I was trying to prove they are two different William Neales
I posted the one with father Thomas who married Amplias to prove father
I didn't follow thru on William with no father