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John Williams / Mary Ann Whorton - St Thonmas, Dudley

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:48 pm
by peterd
Spare look up by Rf

25 december 1872 St Thomas, Dudley

John Williams - 20 - B - Miner - Dudley - Frederick Williams - Miner
Mary Ann Whorton - 16 ? - S - Dudley - John Whorton - Miner

Wit James Whorton & Maria Whorton

Can we find any census please

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Re: John Williams / Mary Ann Whorton - St Thonmas, Dudley

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:24 pm
by linell
What was the date Peter :?:

Re: John Williams / Mary Ann Whorton - St Thonmas, Dudley

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:51 pm
by peterd
linell wrote:What was the date Peter :?:



25 december 1872 St Thomas, Dudley

added it

Re: John Williams / Mary Ann Whorton - St Thonmas, Dudley

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:12 pm
by Maths girl
1851 New Dock, Dudley
WILLIAMS, Frederick Head Married M 22 1829 Coal Miner Shrewsbury
WILLIAMS, Lucy Wife Married F 18 1833 Dudley Worcestershire
WILLIAMS, Maria Daughter F 0 (11 MOS) 1851 Dudley Worcestershire


1861 Pig Street, Kingswinford
WILLIAMS, Frederick Head Married M 34 1827 Coal Miner Shrewsbury Shropshire
WILLIAMS, Lucy Wife Married F 29 1832 Coal Miner Wife Dudley Worcestershire
WILLIAMS, Maria Daughter F 11 1850 Coal Miner Daughter Dudley Worcestershire
WILLIAMS, John Son M 6 1855 Coal Miner Son Dudley Worcestershire
WILLIAMS, Sarah Daughter F 4 1857 Coal Miner Daughter Dudley Worcestershire
WILLIAMS, Thomas Son M 1 1860 Coal Miner Son Dudley Worcestershire

1871 Bull Ring, Dudley
WILLIAMS, Frederik Head M 43 1828 Shropshire Miner
WILLIAMS, Lucy Wife F 40 1831 Worcestershire
WILLIAMS, Maria Daughter F 20 1851 Worcestershire
WILLIAMS, John Son M 17 1854 Worcestershire Miner
WILLIAMS, Sarah Daughter F 14 1857 Worcestershire
WILLIAMS, Mary Ann Daughter F 6 1865 Worcestershire
WILLIAMS, James Son M 3 1868 Worcestershire
WILLIAMS, Annie Daughter F 0 1871 Worcestershire

Re: John Williams / Mary Ann Whorton - St Thonmas, Dudley

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:29 pm
by Maths girl
are these the witnesses?

1881 50, Prince Albert St, Dudley (Worcs)
WHORTON, James Head Married M 26 1855 Fender Fitter Dudley Worcestershire
WHORTON, Mary Wife Married F 25 1856 Dudley Worcestershire
WHORTON, Alfred J Son Single M 0 1881 Dudley Worcestershire


1891 92, Wellington Road, Dudley
WHORTON, James Head Married M 39 1852 Tender Manufacturer Dudley Worcestershire
WHORTON, Mary Wife Married F 35 1856 Dudley Worcestershire
WHORTON, Alfred J Son M 10 1881 Scholar Dudley Worcestershire
WHORTON, Joseph H Son M 9 1882 Scholar Dudley Worcestershire

1901 Fairhaven, Grange Road, Dudley (Worcs), Dudley
WHORTON, James Head Married M 47 1854 Fender Manufacturer Dudley Worcestershire
WHORTON, Mary Wife Married F 46 1855 Dudley Worcestershire
WHORTON, Joseph Son Single M 19 1882 Clerk For Fender Manufacturer Dudley Worcestershire

Re: John Williams / Mary Ann Whorton - St Thonmas, Dudley

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:45 pm
by Maths girl
1861
WORTON, Joseph Head Married M 31 1830 White Smith Dudley Worcestershire
WORTON, Mary Wife Married F 37 1824 ...
WORTON, James Son M 6 1855 Scholar Dudley Worcestershire

This JAmes possible witness has father Joseph so not Mary Ann's brother! --- cousin?

Re: John Williams / Mary Ann Whorton - St Thonmas, Dudley

Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 7:43 am
by FarSide
Maths girl wrote:1851 New Dock, Dudley
WILLIAMS, Frederick Head Married M 22 1829 Coal Miner Shrewsbury
WILLIAMS, Lucy Wife Married F 18 1833 Dudley Worcestershire
WILLIAMS, Maria Daughter F 0 (11 MOS) 1851 Dudley Worcestershire


Poss
1849
WILLIAMS Frederic MARSH Lucy Kingswinford, St Mary Dudley Register Office 213/002/369

Re: John Williams / Mary Ann Whorton - St Thonmas, Dudley

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:10 pm
by peterd
peterd wrote:Spare look up by Rf

25 december 1872 St Thomas, Dudley

John Williams - 20 - B - Miner - Dudley - Frederick Williams - Miner
Mary Ann Whorton - 16 ? - S - Dudley - John Whorton - Miner

Wit James Whorton & Maria Whorton

Can we find any census please





anyone find these in later census ?

Re: John Williams / Mary Ann Whorton - St Thonmas, Dudley

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:41 pm
by FarSide
A couple to chose from
1881
18 Cecil St Con, Stourbridge
John Williams 67 - Widow - Grandfather (is this Fredericks father?) - Coal dealer
John Williams 32 - Coal dealer
Mary Ann Williams 30
Joseph Williams 23 - grandson
William Williams 12 - son
Mary Ann Williams 5 - daug
Joseph Williams 3 - son
James Williams 11mths - son
all b Stourbridge

1881
41 Vicar Street, Dudley
John Williams 31 - Anvil maker
Mary A. Williams 30
William A. Williams 5
all b Dudley

1881
Stourbridge Road
John Williams 25 - Publican
Mary Williams 24
Frances Annie Williams 1
all b Halesowen

This one's a coalminer..
1881
72 Club Buildings, Rowley
John Williams 32 - Coalminer - b Rowley
Mary Ann Williams 31 - b Dudley
Sarah Williams 10 - b Cradley
Fanny Williams 8
Mary Ann Williams 6
John Williams 4
Eliza Williams 2
Robert Hubble 53 - Stepfather - Widow - Farm labourer - b Bromwich?
others b Rowley

Re: John Williams / Mary Ann Whorton - St Thonmas, Dudley

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:18 pm
by peterd
This one's a coalminer..
1881
72 Club Buildings, Rowley
John Williams 32 - Coalminer - b Rowley
Mary Ann Williams 31 - b Dudley
Sarah Williams 10 - b Cradley
Fanny Williams 8
Mary Ann Williams 6
John Williams 4
Eliza Williams 2
Robert Hubble 53 - Stepfather - Widow - Farm labourer - b Bromwich?
others b Rowley



dont know if this is anything ?

1881 114 Queens X, Dudley, Worcester

Frederic WILLIAMS 50 Shrewsbury, Worcester, Coal Miner
Lucy WILLIAMS 48 Dudley, Worcester,
James WILLIAMS 14 Dudley, Worcester,
Annie WILLIAMS 11 Dudley, Worcester, Scholar


1881: 112 Queens X, Dudley, Worcester

Thos. CORBET Head 74 Dudley, Worcester, Labourer
Elizabeth CORBET Wife 70 Dudley, Worcester,
Thos. HAMBLETT Lodger W 37 Dudley, Worcester, Labourer


also

Roshannah HUBBLE Daur (Head) W 35 Dudley, Worcester, No Occupation
Sarah HUBBLE Daur U 7 Dudley, Worcester,

also

Thos. CANNON Lodger (Head) 40 Dudley, Worcester, Labourer
Elizabeth CANNON Wife 38 Dudley, Worcester,
Elizabeth Biggs CANNON 13 Dudley, Worcester,
Hannah CANNON 3 Dudley, Worcester,
Thomas CANNON 2 Dudley, Worcester,


there also a john williams at 69 club building 58 poss john father ?