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Thanks for this look up RF!

here

Or are we looking for an Elizabeth

Pre-marriage anyone?

Aha!

Births Jun 1860
BINNER Hepsebeth Bromsgrove 6c 401

Is this her?

1861: Wild Moor, Belbroughton, Worc
William Binner 56 Head Ag Lab Much Wenlock, Shropshire
Mary Binner 45 Wife Nailer Bromsgrove, Worc
Mary Binner 21 Dau U Nailer
William Binner 19 Son U Nailer Bromsgrove
Emanuel Binner 17 Son
Jane Binner 14 Dau
Eliza Binner 16 Dau
Harriet Binner 6 Dau
Hepsebeth Binner 11 Mnths Dau in Law
(others born Belbroughton, Worc)

1901 Malt Mill Lane, Hill
HARVEY, William Head Married M 44 1857 Insurance Agent Rowley Staffordshire
HARVEY, Hepsibeth Wife Married F 41 1860 Bromsgrove Worcestershire
HARVEY, Hannah Daughter F 18 1883 Foundry Rowley Staffordshire
HARVEY, Jesse Son M 12 1889 Atherton Lancashire
HARVEY, William B Son M 9 1892 Rowley Staffordshire
HARVEY, Bertha L Daughter F 6 1895 Rowley Staffordshire
HARVEY, Alice M Daughter F 3 1898 Rowley Staffordshire
HARVEY, Edward A N Son M 0 (1 MOS) 1901 Rowley Staffordshire

1911 33 Maltmill Lane Black Heath Birmingham
HARVEY, William Head Married 30 years M 53 1858 Coal Miner Hewer Staffordshire
HARVEY, Heprubeth Wife Married F 50 1861 House Wife Worcestershire
HARVEY, Hannah Daughter Single F 28 1883 Iron Workers Assient Bellows Blouger Staf Shire
HARVEY, William Bramwell Son Single M 9 1902 Brick Layers Labourer Staf Shire
HARVEY, Bertha Lilley Daughter Single F 16 1895 Domestic Servant Staf Shire
HARVEY, Alice May Daughter Single F 13 1898 School Staf Shire
HARVEY, Edward Albert Nathan Son Single M 11 1900 School Worcestershire
9 children born 6 living

3 more children included on form but erased

Thanks Mg, I've got the Harveys, sorry should have posted that link too

here you are

Possible marriage of her parents
5 Oct 1832 St Johns Halesowen
William Binner otp bach
Mary Harnold opt spin
William X Binner and Mary X Harnold
Wit:Phoebe X Harnold and George G. Fiddian
Banns
GS

1851 Wildmon? Belbroughton
William Binnall Head 50 Agu Lab Born Wenlock Salop
Mary Binnall Wife 36 Born Bromsgrove
Ann Binnall Daur 17 Nailer Born Bromsgrove
Mary Binnall Daur 12 Born Bromsgrove
William Binnall Son 10 Born Bromsgrove
Emanuel Binnall Son 8 Born Belbroughton
Jane Binnall Daur 5 Born Belbroughton
Emily Binnall Daur 2 Born Belbroughton
Eliza Binnall Daur 1 MO Born Belbroughton
Samuel George Lodger 19 Nailer Born Belbroughton

Extracted
EPSABETH BINNER
Christening: 28 JUN 1857 Catshill, Worcester
Parents:
Father: WILLIAM BINNER
Mother: MARY

Son
Extracted
WILLIAM BINNER
Marriages:
Spouse: MARY ANN BANNER
Marriage: 25 DEC 1866 Belbroughton, Worcester

1871
Chapel Lane, Belbroughton
William Binner 28 - Nailer
Mary A Binner 24 - Nailer - b Bromsgrove
Emma Binner 1 - Daug
Eliza Binner 20 - Sister
Harriett Binner 18 - Sister
George Smith 36 - Lodger - Nailer
others b Belbroughton

Thanks kdw!

kdw wrote:Possible marriage of her parents
5 Oct 1832 St Johns Halesowen
William Binner otp bach
Mary Harnold opt spin
William X Binner and Mary X Harnold
Wit:Phoebe X Harnold and George G. Fiddian
Banns
GS

(Extracted)
WILLIAM BINNER
Spouse: MARY HARNOLD
Marriage: 05 AUG 1832 Halesowen, Worcester

Sorry my mistake it is August

Wonder if her name should be Elspeth scottish form of Elizabeth

mallosa wrote:
1861: Wild Moor, Belbroughton, Worc
William Binner 56 Head Ag Lab Much Wenlock, Shropshire
Mary Binner 45 Wife Nailer Bromsgrove, Worc
Mary Binner 21 Dau U Nailer
William Binner 19 Son U Nailer Bromsgrove
Emanuel Binner 17 Son
Jane Binner 14 Dau
Eliza Binner 16 Dau
Harriet Binner 6 Dau
Hepsebeth Binner 11 Mnths Dau in Law
(others born Belbroughton, Worc)

Who did Mary (daughter) marry?

Marriages Jun 1866
BINNER Mary Stourbridge 6c 309
Darby Fanny Stourbridge 6c 309
Harris Andrew Stourbridge 6c 309
Harris Samuel Stourbridge 6c 309

Mmmm.....I reckon that this Mary had Epsibeth out of wedlock - see 1861

That's why, on the marr look up details it stated - COULD NOT TELL HER FATHERS NAME (Actual Entry on sheet)

1871: Halesowen Road, Gosty Hill, Rowley Regis
Andrew Harris 27 Head Labourer, Halesowen
Mary Harris 32 Wife Bellbroughton
Elizabeth (EPSIBETH on Image) Buiners 10 Step Dau Bellbroughton
Thomas Harris 5 Son Rowley Regis
Mary Harris 5 Dau Rowley Regis
Joseph Harris 3 Son Rowley Regis

Looks like Andrew and Mary are already on BCC - here

See 1871 Census, same as above

1881 Gosty Hill No 30, Rowley Regis, Stafford

Andrew HARRIS 41 Halesowen, Worcester, General Labourer
Mary HARRIS 43 Belbroughton, Worcester, Nail Forger
Thomas HARRIS 14 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Nail Forger
Mary HARRIS 14 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Joseph HARRIS 13 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Frederick HARRIS 9 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Sarah HARRIS 6 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Eliza HARRIS 4 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar
Harriet BIRMER Boarder U 25 Belbroughton, Worcester, Domestic Servant

Yes Pete, Annie's added that and the 1891

I'm hoping Jan will connect up cos I dont trust myself on this one