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TBC. West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1870
MARTIN Samuel JEAVONS EllenDudley, St James Dudley Register Office 202/005/433

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1873
MARTIN Samuel BRETTLE Ann Dudley, St James Dudley Register Office 202/007/69

1871. 38, Bowling Green, Dudley
Samuel Martin, head, 20, Miner, Netherton
Ellen, wife, 18, Nail maker
Elizabeth, daur, 1 m
All others born Bowling Green

Possible death for
Deaths Jun 1873.
Martin. Ellen . 21. Dudley. 6c. 72.

Marriage to Ann was 1873 Dec quarter

1881. 24 King Street, Rowley Regis
Samuel Martin, head, 29, Coal Miner, Netherton
Ann, wife, 29,
Elizabeth, daur, 10,
Phoebe, daur, 8, (so who is the Mother?)
Anne, daur, 5,
Rachel, daur, 3,
Joseph, 17? M
Lavinia Brettell, boarder, 25, Chain Maker
/Ellen price, W, 25, Chain maker
David, son, 15 m
All others born Rowley Regis

Groom's Name: Samuel Martin
Groom's Birth Date: 1851
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 19
Bride's Name: Ellen Jeavons
Bride's Birth Date: 1852
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 18
Marriage Date: 07 Jun 1870
Marriage Place: Dudley, Worcester, England
Groom's Father's Name: Joseph Martin
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: Daniel Jeavons
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status: Single
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status: Single
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01386-0
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1470600
Reference Number: Item 1 en#433 p 217


Groom's Name: Samuel Martin
Groom's Birth Date: 1851
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age: 22
Bride's Name: Ann Brettle
Bride's Birth Date: 1851
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age: 22
Marriage Date: 01 Dec 1873
Marriage Place: Dudley, Worcester, England
Groom's Father's Name: Joseph Martin
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name: William Brettle
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status: Widowed
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status: Single
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01465-6
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1470600
Reference Number: 69 p 35
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1861 Church Road
Joseph Martin Head 37 Coal Miner Born Staffordshire
Elizth Martin Wife 34 Born Staffordshire
Lucy Martin Daur 15 Nailer Born Staffordshire
Mary Martin Daur 12 Nailer Born Worcestershire
Samuel Martin Son 10 Born Worcestershire
Anne Martin Daur 8 Born Worcestershire
Joseph Martin Son 3 Born Worcestershire
John Martin Son 9 MO Born Worcestershire

1851 Cinder Bank
Joseph Martin Head 29 Coal Miner Born Brierley Hill
Elizabeth Martin Wife 25 Born Brierley Hill
Lucy Martin Daur 20 Born Brierley Hill Image says 20
Mary Martin Daur 12 Born Dudley
Next Door but 1
Samuel Martin Head 53 Coal Miner Clay Hills Shropshire
Phebe Martin Wife 50 Born Brierley Hill
Jane Martin Daur 20 Born Brierley Hill
Phebe Martin Daur 16 Born Brierley Hill
Elizabeth Martin Daur 8 Born Brierley Hill
James Tart Grandson 7 Born Brierley Hill
William Tart Grandson 3 Born Oldbury
Samuel Martin Servant 16 General Servant Born Oldbury

Looked up by Rocky Fowler, thank you

1st Marriage
7th June 1870. St James, Dudley
Samuel Martin, 19, B, Miner, Dudley, Father, Joseph martin, Miner
Ellen Jeavons, 18, S,Dudley, Daniel Jeavons, Watchmaker
Banns
Signed by Joseph, X of Ellen
Witnesses:- John Mallen, X of Harriet Mallen

2nd Marriage
1st December 1873. St James, Dudley
Samuel Martin, 22, Widower, Miner, Dudley, Father,Joseph Martin, Miner
Ann Brettle, 22, S, Dudley, Father, William Brettle, Blacksmith
Samuel signed, X of Ann Witnesses:- Thomas Bradley, Mary Ann Bodd?



Thanks kdw, I'll add that now
Any thoughts on child, Phoebe, who her Mother is?
Jo

grangers14 wrote:1881. 24 King Street, Rowley Regis
Samuel Martin, head, 29, Coal Miner, Netherton
Ann, wife, 29,
Elizabeth, daur, 10,
Phoebe, daur, 8, (so who is the Mother?)
Anne, daur, 5,
Rachel, daur, 3,
Joseph, 17? M
Lavinia Brettell, boarder, 25, Chain Maker
/Ellen price, W, 25, Chain maker
David, son, 15 m
All others born Rowley Regis

Martin on image, who is Pheobe Woodhouse.

1891. 123 Waterfall Lane, Rowley Regis.
Samuel Marton 39. Coal miner. Smethwick.
Ann Marton 39. Rowley Regis.
Ann Marton 15. Dau.
Rachel Marton 13. Dau.
Joseph Marton 11. Son.
Samuel Marton 7. Son.
William Marton 5. Son. Rowley Regis.
Lucy Rebecca Marton 3. Dau.
Jasper Marton 2/12. Son.
Pheobe Woodhouse 18. Single. Visitor.

Others born Dudley.

Dont know Jimmy I didnt see a possible birth under either name.
Ive added that thank you

Jo

1841. Brierly Hill, Kingswinford
Samuel Martin, 40, Coal Miner
Phebe, 40,
Joseph, 15, Coal Miner
Jane, 7.
Phebe, 5,
Thomas, 1
Jesse Tart, 20, Pudler
Mary, 20
All born County

1851 Cinder Bank
Samuel Martin Head 53 Coal Miner Clay Hills Shropshire
Phebe Martin Wife 50 Born Brierley Hill
Jane Martin Daur 20 Born Brierley Hill
Phebe Martin Daur 16 Born Brierley Hill
Elizabeth Martin Daur 8 Born Brierley Hill
James Tart Grandson 7 Born Brierley Hill
William Tart Grandson 3 Born Oldbury
Samuel Martin Servant 16 General Servant Born Oldbury

Added Samuel census and children
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... tin-Family

Joseph census and children
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... tin-Family

Samuel census and children but added a note in Phoebes to say unsure of mother?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... tin-Family

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1840
MARTIN Mary TART Jesse Oldswinford, St Mary Dudley Register Office 003/001/425

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1845
MARTIN Joseph CUTLER Elizabeth Kingswinford, St Mary Dudley Register Office 213/001/457

I will add to look ups
Archive?
Jo

Thanks Rocky Fowler for this look up!

27 Apr 1845 St Mary Kinswinford
Joseph MARTIN F B Miner Bromley Father Samuel Martin Miner
Elizabeth CUTLER M S Bromley Father John Cutler Miner
Wit; James Glazer X Mary Glazer X


This may be Elizabeth with her father although he is down as Furnaceman and not miner.
1841. Bromley Lane, Kingswinford
John Cutler, 40, Furnaceman
Lucy, 40
Isaac, 12,
Elizabeth, 13
All born County
Possible marriage for the witnesses

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1838
CUTLER Mary GLAZE James Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/001/409

Could be Glaze and not Glazer?
Jo

Yes it could be Glaze the vicars writing again
1 Jul 1838 St Thomas Dudley
James GLAZE M B Labourer Common Side Parish Of Kingswinford Father James Glaze Nailer
Mary CUTLER M S Common Side Father John Cutler Keeper The Marks Of Both
Wit; William Glaze X Maria Wassell X

Sounds good RF!
I'll look more ito it and thanks for that!
Jo

1851. Cinder Bank, Dudley.
James Glaze 34. Coal miner. Kingswinford.
Mary Glaze 33. Kingsley, Staffordshire.
Lucy Glaze 14. Dau. Briceley Hill.
Edward Glaze 9. Son. Briceley Hill.
William Glaze 5. Son. Kingswinford.

1841. Common Side, Dudley.
James Glaze 20. Lab.
Mary Glaze 20.
Lucy Glaze 1.

All born in county.

Familysearch
Elizabeth Cutler
baptism/christening date: 08 Oct 1826
Kingswinford
John Cutler and Lucy

?
1851. Bromley, Kingswinford,
John Cutler, head, 50, Furnace lab, Kingswinford
Sarah, wife, 35, Salop
Isaac, son, 24, Coal lab, Kingswinford

Second marriage?
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1847
CUTLER John LOWE Sarah Wordsley, Holy Trinity Dudley Register Office 018/002/427

Archive pending look up
Jo

grangers14 wrote:Familysearch
Elizabeth Cutler
baptism/christening date: 08 Oct 1826
Kingswinford
John Cutler and Lucy

?
1851. Bromley, Kingswinford,
John Cutler, head, 50, Furnace lab, Kingswinford
Sarah, wife, 35, Salop
Isaac, son, 24, Coal lab, Kingswinford

Second marriage?
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1847
CUTLER John LOWE Sarah Wordsley, Holy Trinity Dudley Register Office 018/002/427

Poss
1 Mar 1824
John Cutler, X, otp, bach & Lucy Morris, X, otp, spin
by GS (Curate)
Wit - George G Fiddian & Phoebe Robinson, X

8 Oct 1826 Elizabeth, dau of John & Lucy Cutler of Brockmoor, Labourer

age is way out..
30 Nov 1823 Isaac, son of John & Lucy Cutler of Himley, Waggoner

This may be Elizabeth with her father although he is down as Furnaceman and not miner.
1841. Bromley Lane, Kingswinford
John Cutler, 40, Furnaceman
Lucy, 40
Isaac, 12,
Elizabeth, 13
All born County

grangers14 wrote:Archive pending look up
Jo

Do you need to add that info FS found?

not up to speed with this thread but if it can go on etc

then I can archive this