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Portraits from Canada of Alfred Hickman's servants

Here's the link - http://www.blackcountrybugle.co.uk/News ... rvants.htm

I have added some info to BCC - here

Can we find more?

This looks like Elizabeth Goughs husband Albert Ernest Johnson pre- marriage..same occupation

1901: 30 Franchise Street, Wolverhampton
George Johnson 68 Head Wid Cycle Store Keeper Longton, Staffs
Albert E Johnson 27 Son S Printer - Linotype Operator Wolverhampton,Staffs

Can anyone see Albert and Elizabeth Johnson in 1911 please?

“It seems that my greatgrandfather, George Johnson, and greatgrandmother, Margaret Johnson (nee Bennett), worked in service for Sir Alfred Hickman. I have portraits of them indicating that George was the head coachman"

1881: 30 Franchise Street, Wolverhampton
George Johnson 47 Head Coachman and Gen Serv Longton
Margaret Johnson 45 Wife Moxley, Staffs
George Johnson 17 Son Spectacle Frame Maker Birmingham, Warwickshire
Thomas Johnson 14 Son Tinman Apprentice Handsworth
Albert Johnson 7 Son Scholar Wolverhampton
Frederick Johnson 3 Son Wolverhampton

1871: 19 Haggar Street, Wolverhampton
George Johnson 38 Coachman Domestic
Margret Johnson 35
George E Johnson 7
Thomas H Johnson 3

1861: Hill Top, Handsworth, Staffs
John Marshall 51 Head S Iron Master Walsall, Staffs
John Stogden 17 Nephew S Walsall
Margarate Bennett 25 Serv S Housekeeper Moxley
Mary Taylor 23 Serv Housemaid S Coten, Staffs
George Johnson 28 Serv S Coachman Longton, Staffs
George Griffin 19 Serv S Groom Coton
John Pettinger 25 Serv S Labourer N/K
Charles Bennett 16 Serv S Labourer Tibberton, Worc

1911 9 Gibbons Road Sedgley Staffordshire
JOHNSON, Albert Ernest Head Married M 37 1874 Printer Linotype Opeatror Staffordshire Wolverhampton
JOHNSON, Elizabeth Winifred Wife Married 7 years F 32 1879 Staffordshire Wolverhampton
JOHNSON, Edward Son M 6 1905 Staffordshire Wolverhampton
JOHNSON, Agnes Margaret Daughter F 5 1906 Staffordshire Wolverhampton
JOHNSON, Hilda Georgina Daughter F 0 (1 MONTH) 1911 Staffordshire Sedgley
JOHNSON, George Father Widower M 78 1833 Staffordshire Potteries Burslem
3 children born and living

Thankyou MG

mallosa wrote:
1861: Hill Top, Handsworth, Staffs
John Marshall 51 Head S Iron Master Walsall, Staffs
John Stogden 17 Nephew S Walsall
Margarate Bennett 25 Serv S Housekeeper Moxley
Mary Taylor 23 Serv Housemaid S Coten, Staffs
George Johnson 28 Serv S Coachman Longton, Staffs
George Griffin 19 Serv S Groom Coton
John Pettinger 25 Serv S Labourer N/K
Charles Bennett 16 Serv S Labourer Tibberton, Worc

Can't find a marriage

So George was a Coachman to John Marshall! Can't see him as Coachman to Sir Alfred Hickman.

poss ?

GEORGE JOHNSON
Christening: 08 JUL 1832 Lane End, Stafford,

Father: THOMAS JOHNSON
Mother: MARY


siblings

MARY JOHNSON
Christening: 26 JUL 1846 Lane End, Stafford,
Death: 20 DEC 1846


FANNY MARIA JOHNSON -
Christening: 03 APR 1836 Lane End, Stafford,

ANNE JOHNSON
Christening: 08 SEP 1835 Lane End, Stafford,

mallosa wrote:

mallosa wrote:
1861: Hill Top, Handsworth, Staffs
John Marshall 51 Head S Iron Master Walsall, Staffs
John Stogden 17 Nephew S Walsall
Margarate Bennett 25 Serv S Housekeeper Moxley
Mary Taylor 23 Serv Housemaid S Coten, Staffs
George Johnson 28 Serv S Coachman Longton, Staffs
George Griffin 19 Serv S Groom Coton
John Pettinger 25 Serv S Labourer N/K
Charles Bennett 16 Serv S Labourer Tibberton, Worc

Can't find a marriage

So George was a Coachman to John Marshall! Can't see him as Coachman to Sir Alfred Hickman.

poss ? extracted

George Johnson
Father: Richard Johnson

Spouse: Mary Bennett
Father: John Bennett
Marriage: 31 DEC 1865 St John, Burslem, Stafford,


longton and burslem about 10 mile apart stoke area

Marriages Jun 1863 (>99%)
HANNAN Michael Birmingham 6d 267
JOHNSON George Birmingham 6d 267
TIERNEY Margaret Birmingham 6d 267

Marriages Jun 1863 (>99%)
BENNETT Margaret Birmingham 6d _1_

Thomas Alberts brother who married Elizabeths sister Phoebe
Marriages Jun 1892
BRODIE William Arthur Wolverhampton 6b 787
Gough Phoebe Ann Wolverhampton 6b 787
Johnson Thomas Henry Wolverhampton 6b 787
WALDRON Flora Wolverhampton 6b 787

1901 13 Cousins Street Wolverhampton East
Thomas H Johnson Head 33 Tin Plate Worker Born Handsworth
Phoebe A Johnson Wife 32 Born Wolverhampton
Margaret W Johnson Daur 7 Born Wolverhampton
Thomas C Johnson Son 4 Born Wolverhampton
Josephine B Johnson Daur 3 Months Born Wolverhampton
Joseph G Johnson Son 3 Months Born Wolverhampton

kdw wrote:Thomas Alberts brother who married Elizabeths sister Phoebe
Marriages Jun 1892
BRODIE William Arthur Wolverhampton 6b 787
Gough Phoebe Ann Wolverhampton 6b 787
Johnson Thomas Henry Wolverhampton 6b 787
WALDRON Flora Wolverhampton 6b 787

1901 13 Cousins Street Wolverhampton East
Thomas H Johnson Head 33 Tin Plate Worker Born Handsworth
Phoebe A Johnson Wife 32 Born Wolverhampton
Margaret W Johnson Daur 7 Born Wolverhampton
Thomas C Johnson Son 4 Born Wolverhampton
Josephine B Johnson Daur 3 Months Born Wolverhampton
Joseph G Johnson Son 3 Months Born Wolverhampton

Thanks kdw, I have added the above info here ....here

I haven't connected up as yet though

kdw wrote:Marriages Jun 1863 (>99%)
HANNAN Michael Birmingham 6d 267
JOHNSON George Birmingham 6d 267
TIERNEY Margaret Birmingham 6d 267

Marriages Jun 1863 (>99%)
BENNETT Margaret Birmingham 6d _1_

So it doesn't look like George married Margaret BENNET does it?

Only way to find out is to check the marriage at Birmingham there is a person missing with George and the image is hard to read for Margaret

Will do, when I can kdw, thanks

This can be archived for now please