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Ok you clever people; here's the latest bit of my family tree based on the distaff side of my mother's family and mainly supplied by my cousin's wife. I'm currently putting together her father's side from the information supplied by my cousin's wife as well as my own investigations so I'm not in need of any help there yet, but if you're bored, and would like to cast an eye over the tree, you might like to check out what we've done and contribute any comments on the Hillman/Silsby family lines.

The parts in red that it says are unconfirmed, do you have that info but just not checked it out?
Jo

What area's are involved.

Marriages Dec 1924
Haines Sidney Hillman Cuckfield
2b 407

Hillman Winnifred Haines Cuckfield
2b 407



Sidney Haines
26 Dec 1899
Death Registration Month/Year: 1976
Cuckfield
West Sussex
Volume: 18
Page: 2428


Looks like Sussex Jimmy
Jo

Name: Garfield S Haines.
Spouse Surname: Deacon. (Sybil Z Deacon).
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1952.
Registration district: Hove.
Registration county (inferred): Sussex.
Volume Number: 5h.
Page Number: 649.
Find Spouse: Find Spouse.

1901. 32 ??????. Brighton.
Sidney Haines 26. General lab. Tasmania, Hobart Town.
Minnie Haines 25. Clayton, Sussex.
Susan Haines 3. Brighton, Sussex.
Henrietta Haines 2. Brighton, Sussex.
Sidney Haines 5 Months. Brighton, Sussex.
George Haines 56. Harris on image.

Or.
1901. 40a, East St, Littlehampton, Sussex.
Philip Haines 28. Tailor. Gosport, Hampshire.
Edith Haines 28. Littlehampton, Sussex.
Leslie Haines 3. Littlehampton, Sussex.
Sidney Haines 1. Littlehampton, Sussex.

Sydney Haines.
Baptism/Christening Date: 11 Feb 1900.
Baptism/Christening Place: Littlehampton, Sussex.
Father's Name: Philip Sydney Haines.
Mother's Name: Edith Matilda Haines.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02016-7.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 2147087.
Reference Number: 60.

?? possible
Marriages Mar 1863 Cuckfield 2b 153
SILSBY James Cuckfield
PEIRCE Frances Selendar

Transcribed and looks like Selsby
1871 Barnards Cottage, Twineham
James Selsby, head, 36 ag lab,
Fanny, wife, 30, Ashurst
Phoebe, daur, 6,
Emily, daur, 4,
Jane, daur, 1,
Ruth Attater, visitor, 12, Horsham
William Selsby, Lodger, 26 Ag lab
All others born Twineham

1891. 23 South Terrace Court, Littlehampton.
Philip Haines 53. Lodging House Keeper. Jersey, Channel Islands.
Fanny Haines 42. Christian Malford, Wiltshire.
Philip Sidney Haines 18. Son. Tailor. Gosport, Hampshire
Maude Maria Haines 16. Dau. Priston, Sussex.
Emily Hammond 16. Servant.
Mary Young Husband 77. Lodger.
Henrietta Neale 42. Lodger.

Marriages Mar 1897.
Haines Phillip Sidney. E.preston. 2b. 486.
Palmer Esther. E. Preston. 2b. 486.
Stoner William. E.Preston. 2b. 486.
Woods Edith Matilda. E. Preston. 2b. 486.

grangers14 wrote:The parts in red that it says are unconfirmed, do you have that info but just not checked it out?
Jo

It's mainly been deduced by cross referencing indeces etc. We don't have entries, certificates or licences.

Thanks Jimmy that's brilliant, I'm pretty certain it's the Phillip Sidney/Edith Matilda ones but I'm more interested (at the moment) with any further info on the Hillman/Silsby side, give us a chance to track the Haineses ourselves for a bit.

grangers14 wrote:?? possible
Marriages Mar 1863 Cuckfield 2b 153
SILSBY James Cuckfield
PEIRCE Frances Selendar

Transcribed and looks like Selsby
1871 Barnards Cottage, Twineham
James Selsby, head, 36 ag lab,
Fanny, wife, 30, Ashurst
Phoebe, daur, 6,
Emily, daur, 4,
Jane, daur, 1,
Ruth Attater, visitor, 12, Horsham
William Selsby, Lodger, 26 Ag lab
All others born Twineham

I'd found that one but wasn't sure firstly if Frances would have become Fanny in the later census (possibly Franny mistranscribed especially if Silsby was mistranscribed as Selsby) and secondly I couldn't track her down either as Peirce (which I think tends to be West Country) or Pierce.

Other lines of attack we've drawn a bit of a blank on are Win(n)ifred Hillman's siblings. Of course they're a bit recent to show up on census.

There are photographs at http://s715.photobucket.com/albums/ww15 ... es_Family/

with the one at http://i715.photobucket.com/albums/ww156/The_Haines_Family/Hillmanweddingmaybe02.png one showing my Nan (on the right) and her sister as bridesmaids.

As you can see there are definitely family facial characteristics.

The previous picture shows another (probably earlier) Hillman wedding.

Marriages Mar 1889.
HILLMAN William. Cuckfield. 2b. 229.
SILSBY Jane . Cuckfield. 2b. 229.

William Hillman.
Groom's Birth Date: 1865.
Groom's Age: 24.
Bride's Name: Jane Silsby.
Bride's Birth Date: 1870.
Bride's Age: 19.
Marriage Date: 02 Feb 1889.
Marriage Place: Cowfold, Sussex.
Groom's Father's Name: Moses Hillman.
Bride's Father's Name: James Silsby.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03925-4.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1041578.
Reference Number: item 2.

SRD wrote:

grangers14 wrote:The parts in red that it says are unconfirmed, do you have that info but just not checked it out?
Jo

It's mainly been deduced by cross referencing indeces etc. We don't have entries, certificates or licences.

Oh goodness you dont know what you are missing! All the excitement waiting for it to arrive!
You should really, its the only way to confirn you are following the right people.

Fanny is often a nickname for Frances. That marriage isnt correct actually, that Frances married Henry Longhurst!