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COMPLETED.....John Rollason b1813---

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:27 pm
by mallosa
1851: Bartley Green, Northfield, Worc
John Rollason 38 Head Nailmaker Rowley Regis, Staffs
Betsey Rollason 48 Wife
Martha Rollason 11 Dau
Emma Rollason 9 Dau
William Ingram 24 Wifes Son U Nailmaker
Mary Ann Ingram 13 Wifes Dau
Thomas Phillips 25 Lodger U Nailmaker Dudley, Worc
James Hartley 41 Lodger U Nailmaker Dudley, Worc
Edwin Corns 28 Lodger U Nailmaker Womborn
Thomas Gould 14 Lodger Servant Northfield
(others born Northfield, Worc

Poss
Marriages Mar 1849
Brown William Birmingham 16 305
Davenport Edmund Sharington Birmingham 16 305
Ingram Betsy Birmingham 16 305
Moss Mary Birmingham 16 305
PACKWOOD Lucy Birmingham 16 305
Price Robert Sherriff Birmingham 16 305
Rollason John Birmingham 16 305
Todd Fanny Birmingham 16 305

1841: Crumble Bank, Northfield
Betsey Ingram 40 Head Nailer
William Ingram 14
Gilbert Ingram 12
Betsey Ingram 10
Mary Ingram 3
Martha Ingram 1
John Rollason 30 Nailer
James Palmer 35 Nailer
John Tolley 35 Nailer
John Partridge 20 Nailer
Joseph Dowell 40 Nailer
Henry Tomkinson 40 Shoemaker
(all born in County)

Re: John Rollason b1813

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:32 pm
by mallosa
1861: Nr Bartley Green, Northfield
John Rolason 48 Nailmaker
Betsey Rolason 58
Martha Rolason 21 U Nailmaker
Emma Rolason 19 U Nailmaker

1871: Cromwell Lane, Northfield
John Rollason 58 Nailor
Betsy Rollason 69
Ernest Andrews 6 Grd Son Northfield, Worc

Re: John Rollason b1813

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2011 9:06 pm
by mallosa
mallosa wrote:

[b]1841: Crumble Bank, Northfield

Betsey Ingram 40 Head Nailer
William Ingram 14
Gilbert Ingram 12
Betsey Ingram 10
Mary Ingram 3
Martha Ingram 1
John Rollason 30 Nailer
James Palmer 35 Nailer
John Tolley 35 Nailer
John Partridge 20 Nailer
Joseph Dowell 40 Nailer
Henry Tomkinson 40 Shoemaker
(all born in County)


I think the above Gilbert links to one already on BCC also born 1829 (Mumbles) - here

I have added him .... here

Trying to sort out who to add as parents to a couple of those children :? Any ideas?

Re: John Rollason b1813

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 8:14 am
by FarSide
There's a public tree on ancestry states parents of the Ingram kids are Samuel Ingram & Betsy
I don't see any of them anywhere..

Re: John Rollason b1813

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 8:26 am
by FarSide
mallosa wrote:1861: Nr Bartley Green, Northfield
John Rolason 48 Nailmaker
Betsey Rolason 58
Martha Rolason 21 U Nailmaker
Emma Rolason 19 U Nailmaker

1871: Cromwell Lane, Northfield
John Rollason 58 Nailor
Betsy Rollason 69
Ernest Andrews 6 Grd Son Northfield, Worc


Poss Ernest's parents
Marriages Dec 1853
Andrews George King's N. 6c 805
Ingram Betsey K Norton 6c 805
Southwell Sarah Kings N. 6c 805
Witheford Andrew Kings N. 6c 805

Re: John Rollason b1813

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 5:45 pm
by mallosa
Thanks Farside, I'll look at this again tomorrow, off out tonight :wink:

Re: John Rollason b1813

Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:27 pm
by mallosa
Still at a loss with this one :?

Re: John Rollason b1813

Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:43 pm
by Northern Lass
can we help Mally on this one pls... :?

Re: John Rollason b1813---Can we help on this pls...

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:43 am
by grangers14
Awkward where to put the kids when they werent married.
Martha was as Ingram in 1841, I cant see a possible birth reg for her under either name. A possible marriage to a George Andrews as Rollason.
I cant see a possible birth for Emma Rollason but a couple of possibles as Ingram. :? Later census though they are put as Rollason and the other children as wifes.
We dont know Betseys other half is and because its 1841 we dont know if she is a widow.
May be add father as unknown and add a note to say why?
Jo :)

Re: John Rollason b1813---Can we help on this pls...

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:17 am
by Northern Lass
Going thru this now

going to amend those kids added as we dont know that they are rollasons kids

Re: John Rollason b1813---Can we help on this pls...

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:24 am
by Northern Lass
any bapts or birth regis?

Re: John Rollason b1813---Can we help on this pls...

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:28 am
by Northern Lass
grangers14 wrote:Awkward where to put the kids when they werent married.
Martha was as Ingram in 1841, I cant see a possible birth reg for her under either name. A possible marriage to a George Andrews as Rollason.
I cant see a possible birth for Emma Rollason but a couple of possibles as Ingram. :? Later census though they are put as Rollason and the other children as wifes.
We dont know Betseys other half is and because its 1841 we dont know if she is a widow.
May be add father as unknown and add a note to say why?
Jo :)


Poss Ernest's parents
Marriages Dec 1853
Andrews George King's N. 6c 805
Ingram Betsey K Norton 6c 805
Southwell Sarah Kings N. 6c 805
Witheford Andrew Kings N. 6c 805

so possibly Betsy married Andrews as Ingram

Re: John Rollason b1813---Can we help on this pls...

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:35 am
by Northern Lass
Also not sure if any of this lot connect to the BC...so not going to add reams of it

Re: John Rollason b1813---Can we help on this pls...

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:45 am
by Northern Lass
Changed and added bits....
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =837448514

dont think we need to do anymore on this one now it is spanning warwickshire
and I can't see link to BC on them at mo

so putting Completed on this

Re: John Rollason b1813---Can we help on this pls...

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:50 am
by grangers14
Sorry I thought Martha married George Andrews, as Martha Rollason :?

1881. Northfield
George Andrews, head, 45, Labourer Halesowen
Martha, wife, 39,
Ernest, son, 16,
Walter, son, 13,
Fredrick, son, 10, Wood Gate
Alice, daur, 9, Wood Gate
Florence, daur, 4, Wood Gate
All others born Northfield