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Hi There,

Im looking for some more information on the Dufosee Family from Bethnal Green, Florence is my great great Nan and I know that she was born in 1881 and was married in Hackney on the 17th August 1902.

Her father Charles is the one im struggling with, I have found one born in 1855 however in the 1881 and 1891 census he has no daughter called florence and in 1901 I cannot find him at all - I know he was still alive as he attended his daughters wedding in 1902.

I hate Brick walls haha

Thanks for any help !

Do you know where Florence was on the census? Was she born before or after the census in april 1881?
Parents may have divorced, father might have been in the forces, she may just have been staying with relatives at the time!

Births Sep 1881.
De Fosse Flora. Bethnal Green. 1c. 173.

Is this the marriage and death reg,' for Charles.

Herbert Charles Dufosse.
Spouse Name: Susan Newell.
Record Type: Banns.
Marriage Bann Date: 11 Jun 1876.
Parish: All Saints, Haggerston.
County: Middlesex.
Borough: Hackney.

Deaths Dec 1904.
DUFOSSE Charles H. 54. Hackney. 1b. 272.

kevh1980 wrote:Her father Charles is the one im struggling with, I have found one born in 1855 however in the 1881 and 1891 census he has no daughter called florence and in 1901 I cannot find him at all - I know he was still alive as he attended his daughters wedding in 1902.

What makes you think that he attended Florence's wedding?

I've found this census in 1901:
18a, Newling Street, Bethnal Green

DUFOSSE, Mary Ann Head Widow F 48 1853 Dressmaker Bethnal Green
DUFOSSE, Rose Daughter Single F 22 1879 Solderer Of Potted Meat Tins Bethnal Green
DUFOSSE, Florence Daughter Single F 19 1882 Tin Cutter Meat Tins Bethnal Green
DUFOSSE, Eleanor Daughter Single F 18 1883 French Polisher Bethnal Green
DUFOSSE, Sarah Daughter Single F 17 1884 Cardboard Box Maker Bethnal Green
DUFOSSE, Jane Daughter Single F 16 1885 Picture Frame Gold Mounter Bethnal Green
DUFOSSE, Charles Son M 14 1887 Errand Boy Bethnal Green
DUFOSSE, Annie Daughter F 11 1890 Bethnal Green
DUFOSSE, Alfred Son M 10 1891 Bethnal Green
DUFOSSE, Lizzie Daughter F 8 1893 Bethnal Green
DUFOSSE, George Son M 6 1895 Bethnal Green

If there's a Charles as witness it could be the brother!

Possible in 1881:

14 Willow Walk, Bethnal Green
DUFOSSY, Charles Head Married M 26 1855 Cabinet Maker Bethnal Green
DUFOSSY, Mary A Wife Married F 29 1852 St Lukes
HOLMS, Ada Step Daughter Single F 9 1872 Shoreditch
DUFOSSY, Rose Daughter Single F 3 1878 Bethnal Green
DUFOSSY, Charlotte Daughter Single F 2 1879
HOLMS, Charlotte Mother In Law Widow F 67 1814 Deaf St Lukes
GRIFFITHS, Mary A Lodger Widow F 51 1830 Laundress

All others born Bethnal Green.

Deaths Jun 1899.
Dufosee Charles. 44. Bethnal G. 1c. 144.

Charles is a Cabinet Maker accoding to the Parish Records.

He had 4 of his children Baptised on the 16th March 1898 at St. Pauls, Bethnal Green.

If you don't have a copy of the church records just P.M me with you e-mail address.

Marriages Jun 1877.
DUFOSSEE Charles. Bethnal Green. 1c. 562.
Holmes Mary Ann. Bethnal Green. 1c. 562.
Thurston Lucretia Amelia. Bethnal Green. 1c. 562.
Tindall Albert William. Bethnal Green. 1c. 562.

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921.
Charles Dufosee. Cabinet Maker. 7. Willow Walk. Father Name: Herbert Dufosee. Cabinet Maker.
Age: 23.
Estimated birth year: abt 1854.
Spouse Name: Mary Ann Holmes. 14. Willow Walk. Father Name, George Holmes, Butcher.
Spouse Age: 26.
Record Type: Marriage.
Marriage Date: 30 Apr 1877.
Parish: St Matthew, Bethnal Green.
County: Middlesex.
Borough: Tower Hamlets.

Is this the same family in 1891. or are there 2 Charles and Mary's.
1891. 5 Queens Building. Bethnal Green.
Charles Dufour 39. Carpenter. Hackney, London. Defosse on image..
Mary Defosse 39.
Ada Defosse 18.
Robert Defosse 12.
Samuel Defosse 11.
Frederick Defosse 10.
Elizabeth Defosse 9.
Sarah Defosse 8.
Fanny Defosse 6.
Charlotte Defosse 4.
Alice Defosse 2.
Rachel Defosse 9/12.

Others born Bethnal Green.

1861. 10 Willow Walk. Bethnal Green.
Herbert Dufosse 52. Cabinet Maker. Salisbury, Wiltshire.
Sarah Dufosse 40. Bethnal Green, Middlesex.
Joseph Dufosse 7. Shoreditch, Middlesex.
Charles Dufosse 5. Mile End New Town, Middlesex.
Phillis Dufosse 3. Bethnal Green, Middlesex.

1871. 7 Willow Walk, Bethnal Green.
Henry Datosace 62.
Charlotte Datosace 52.
Joseph Datosace 17. Son.
Charles Datosace 15. Son.
Philip Datosace 13. Son.
Mary Ann Datosace 8. Dau.

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921.

Name: Florence Dufosee. Spinster. 3 Red Lion St, Kingsland Road.
Age: 21.
Spouse Name: John Edward Woodcock. Bachelor.French Polisher. 3 Red Lion St, Kingsland Road.
Spouse Age: 21.
Record Type: Marriage.
Marriage Date: 17 Aug 1902.
Parish: St John the Baptist, Hoxton.
County: London.
Borough: Hackney.
Father Name: Charles Dufosee. Cabinet maker.
Spouse Father Name: Robert Woodcock. Folding Chair ?????

Both signed.
Witnesses.
George Robson.
Mary Ann Robson.

Jimmy wrote:Deaths Jun 1899.
Dufosee Charles. 44. Bethnal G. 1c. 144.

London, England, Deaths and Burials, 1813-1980.
Name: Charles Dufforse.
Record Type: Death.
Estimated Death Date: 22 Jun 1899.
Age: 44.
Estimated birth year: abt 1855.
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bethnal Green.
Borough: Tower Hamlets.
County: London.

snoopysue wrote:

kevh1980 wrote:Her father Charles is the one im struggling with, I have found one born in 1855 however in the 1881 and 1891 census he has no daughter called florence and in 1901 I cannot find him at all - I know he was still alive as he attended his daughters wedding in 1902.

What makes you think that he attended Florence's wedding?

I've found this census in 1901:
18a, Newling Street, Bethnal Green

DUFOSSE, Mary Ann Head Widow F 48 1853 Dressmaker Bethnal Green
DUFOSSE, Rose Daughter Single F 22 1879 Solderer Of Potted Meat Tins Bethnal Green
DUFOSSE, Florence Daughter Single F 19 1882 Tin Cutter Meat Tins Bethnal Green
DUFOSSE, Eleanor Daughter Single F 18 1883 French Polisher Bethnal Green
DUFOSSE, Sarah Daughter Single F 17 1884 Cardboard Box Maker Bethnal Green
DUFOSSE, Jane Daughter Single F 16 1885 Picture Frame Gold Mounter Bethnal Green
DUFOSSE, Charles Son M 14 1887 Errand Boy Bethnal Green
DUFOSSE, Annie Daughter F 11 1890 Bethnal Green
DUFOSSE, Alfred Son M 10 1891 Bethnal Green
DUFOSSE, Lizzie Daughter F 8 1893 Bethnal Green
DUFOSSE, George Son M 6 1895 Bethnal Green

If there's a Charles as witness it could be the brother!

Id never though of that, you must be right - I assumed that as he was mentioned as her father then he would still be alive, would it not normally mention deceased if he'd died ??

kevh1980 wrote:Id never though of that, you must be right - I assumed that as he was mentioned as her father then he would still be alive, would it not normally mention deceased if he'd died ??

Sometimes it does say if they were deceased, but not always! Sometimes it can say the father is deceased without actually giving his name! I suppose it depends on the person who was recording the information - if they didn't ask if the father was still alive, they'd never know if that was the case!