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*Arc tbc* ---Possible Cutler-Hadley connection on BCC.

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:43 am
by MarkCDodd
According to some family trees, one of my Cutler cousins...

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=bcconnections&view=0&pid=56146&ver=34650

Is the wife of a Henry Hadley whose parents happen to be this couple.

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=bcconnections&view=0&pid=57236&ver=34650

Children of William and Sarah Unknown are supposed to be:

Henry Hadley. b 1820 Oldbury

Joseph Hadley b 1823 Olbury

Elizabeth Hadley b 1826 Halesowen

Ann Hadley b 1831 Halesowen

Benjamin Hadley b 1834 Halesowen

Ephraim Hadley b 1836 Oldbury

This differs greately from what is on BCC.

This is the 1841 census they quote for the family.

1841 census transcription details for: Tatbank, Halesowen, Warley Wighorn
National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107 Piece: 1197 Book/Folio: 10/27 Page: 19

Reg. District: West Bromwich Sub District: Oldbury
Parish: Halesowen Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Tatbank, Halesowen, Warley Wighorn
County: Worcestershire

HADLEY, Willm M 50 1791 Worcestershire
HADLEY, Sarah F 40 1801
HADLEY, Henry M 21 1820
HADLEY, Joseph M 18 1823
HADLY, Benn M 7 1834 Worcestershire
HADLY, Epraim M 5 1836 Worcestershire
HADLY, Elizabeth F 15 1826 Worcestershire
HADLY, Anna F 10 1831 Worcestershire

The marriage between Henry (Harry) Hadley and Sarah Cutler is supposed to be this one.

CUTLER Sarah HADLEY Henry Oldbury, Christ Church Sandwell Register Office 12/1/27

Year of Registration: 1844
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: West Bromwich
County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 18
Page: 531

Re: Possible Cutler-Hadley connection on BCC.

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:52 am
by Northern Lass
So it has to be another Wm Hadley and Sarah with different kids
as the one we have on is different in 1841

lots of Hadleys

1841 Census: Cocks Head, Halesowen, The Hill, Shropshire
William HADLEY 50 Nailer
Sarah HADLEY 50
George HADLEY 18
Willm. HADLEY 15
Sarah HADLEY 12
Jesse HADLEY 9
HANNAH HADLEY 6
All born in County

Re: Possible Cutler-Hadley connection on BCC.

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:02 pm
by MarkCDodd
Could be different, but the Anna Hadley on the census (which is very hard to read) could very well be the Hannah Hadley on BCC.

There is not much evidence to support the 1841 family quoted for Hannah.

Re: Possible Cutler-Hadley connection on BCC.

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:25 pm
by Antie Em
MarkCDodd wrote:Could be different, but the Anna Hadley on the census (which is very hard to read) could very well be the Hannah Hadley on BCC.

There is not much evidence to support the 1841 family quoted for Hannah.


Probably need to look at the baptisms mark - hopefully they will say where they are living and the father's occupation.

Re: Possible Cutler-Hadley connection on BCC.

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:36 pm
by Northern Lass
put the marriage down for look up see wits etc

Re: Possible Cutler-Hadley connection on BCC.

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:42 pm
by Northern Lass
MarkCDodd wrote:Could be different, but the Anna Hadley on the census (which is very hard to read) could very well be the Hannah Hadley on BCC.

There is not much evidence to support the 1841 family quoted for Hannah.


look like different Hannas to me we have our Hannah marrying

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =551612398

Re: Possible Cutler-Hadley connection on BCC.

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:43 pm
by Northern Lass
Best to get this looked up mark
1844
CUTLER Sarah HADLEY Henry Oldbury, Christ Church Sandwell Register Office 12/1/27

Re: Possible Cutler-Hadley connection on BCC.

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:50 pm
by MarkCDodd
The WIlliam Hadley on the 1841 census I quoted is a Nailer which matches what is on Hannah's marriage record.

Re: Possible Cutler-Hadley connection on BCC.

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:53 pm
by Northern Lass
Northern Lass wrote:So it has to be another Wm Hadley and Sarah with different kids
as the one we have on is different in 1841

lots of Hadleys

1841 Census: Cocks Head, Halesowen, The Hill, Shropshire
William HADLEY 50 Nailer
Sarah HADLEY 50
George HADLEY 18
Willm. HADLEY 15
Sarah HADLEY 12
Jesse HADLEY 9
HANNAH HADLEY 6
All born in County


this one is a nailer too

put the marriage down! :roll:

Re: Possible Cutler-Hadley connection on BCC.

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 1:11 pm
by MarkCDodd
I think the BCC is correct as I found a Baptism for a Hannah Hadley in 1837 (her siblings were baptised the same day).

The place of abode is Combs Hill, also knows as "The Hill" as shown in the 1841 census on BCC.

Name Hannah Hadley
Father's Name William Hadley
Mother's Name Sarah Hadley
Date of Baptism 26 February 1837
Abode Combs Hill
Parish Halesowen

Another baptism for a Hannah Hadley whose parents abode is "The Hill" occurs in 1835.

Name Hannah Hadley
Father's Name William Hadley
Mother's Name Sarah Hadley
Date of Baptism 16 February 1835
Abode The Hill
Parish Halesowen

I think my Henry (Harry) is a close relative but not of the same family.....

I think they are all born in Warley Wigorn.

Re: Possible Cutler-Hadley connection on BCC.

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:26 pm
by Northern Lass
I think you are correct Mark

is this one done then?

Re: *Arc tbc* ---Possible Cutler-Hadley connection on BCC.

Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:43 pm
by MarkCDodd
Done. I really hate looking at Cutlers. Really really hate.....