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Poss
Birth 1896
BIRCH Fanny L Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/113/500

1901: Laurence Lane, Rowley Regis
Joseph Thomas Birch 36 Head Journeyman Baker (Bread) Dudley, Worc
Fanny Maria Birch 32 Wife
Thomas Arthur G Birch 10 Son .................poss marriage 1915 - BIRCH Thomas A G HERRIN Mary E Cradley Heath, Christ Church Sandwell Register Office 90/2/36
Marion Birch 8 Dau
Fanny Louise Birch 5 Dau
(others born Rowley Regis)

anyone see them in 1911 please?

1911 High House, Lawrence Lane, Old Hill.
Joseph Thomas BIRCH hd.46 Baker b. Cradley
Fanny Maria BIRCH 42 Marr.24 trs. b. Cradley Heath
T.A.G.BIRCH son 20 sing. Baker b. Cradley Heath (Transcribed S.A.G.BIRCH)
Fanny Louisa BIRCH dau. 15 b. Cradley Heath
Minnie Kathleen BIRCH dau.9 b. Old Hill
Amy Smith Serv. 29 sing. Dom. Serv. b. Old Hill
4 Children, 3 living, 1 died.

Thanks Sparks!

You get better and better;

the entries nudge a tiny memory that the 'Black Sheep' was known as Arthur, I have no knowledge of Marion though, presumably the child that died. And they were bakers although the term journeyman suggests that, at that time (1901), they didn't own their own business. The situation seems to have changed a bit in 1911. Also Fanny Louise and Fanny Louisa seem to be interchangeable, is this bad handwriting, bad hearing or vanity? I do know that the house in Compton Road, Northcroft (one of those 'pick your features from the catalogue' type William Morris/Art deco copies that were so popular with builders in the early years of the 20th Century), was built for Fanny & Horace to live in and paid for by her inheritance (taken early, although there was bitterness later when the estate was shared on their parents decease and she got another slice, but Minnie got High House ), as far as I know 'Arthur' got nowt.

So who was Ms. HERRIN?

To find that you would need info from this
marriage 1915
BIRCH Thomas A G HERRIN Mary E Cradley Heath, Christ Church Sandwell Register Office 90/2/36

I can remember going to Christ Church for choral concerts. But a quick search in the 1911 census isn't throwing up a Mary E Herrin.

This looks like Thomas Arthur with his parents and Grandparents..

1891: High Street, Rowley Regis
Arthur Griffiths 45 Head Chain Manufacturer
Fanny Griffiths 44 Wife
Fanny M Griffiths (Birch on image) 22 Dau M Rowley Regis
Joseph T Birch 25 Son in Law M Baker Dudley, Worc
Thomas A G Birch 6/12? Rowley Regis

SRD wrote: But a quick search in the 1911 census isn't throwing up a Mary E Herrin.

Can anyone help?

Ive added that marriage for a look up, some kind person might do it

see here

A quick google suggests that Herrin may be romany, related to Hearn, or possibly Dutch or a variant of Herring.

mallosa wrote:
1901: Laurence Lane, Rowley Regis
Joseph Thomas Birch 36 Head Journeyman Baker (Bread) Dudley, Worc
Fanny Maria Birch 32 Wife
Thomas Arthur G Birch 10 Son .................poss marriage 1915 - BIRCH Thomas A G HERRIN Mary E Cradley Heath, Christ Church Sandwell Register Office 90/2/36
Marion Birch 8 Dau
Fanny Louise Birch 5 Dau
(others born Rowley Regis)

Here's Joseph Thomas with his family pre marriage

1881: 133 High Street, Rowley Regis
Thomas Birch 44 Head Master Baker Coseley, Staffs
Louisa Birch 38 Wife Dudley
Samuel Birch 17 Dau Bakers Assistant Dudley
Joseph Thomas Birch 16 Son Bakers Assistant Dudley
Louisa Maria Birch 13 dau Dudley
Ann Ellen Birch 11 Dau Cradley Heath, Staffs
James Henry Birch 9 Son
Mary Ann Birch 7 Dau
Wesley Birch 6 Son
Alice Birch 4 Dau
Kate Birch 10 mths
Joseph Rabone 17 Serv Bakers Journeyman
(others born Rowley Regis)

Old Thomas and Louisa were pretty prolific then, odd that their grandchildren should have so few children. Oh, and I don't think Samuel was a dau

mallosa wrote:To find that you would need info from this
marriage 1915
BIRCH Thomas A G HERRIN Mary E Cradley Heath, Christ Church Sandwell Register Office 90/2/36

26 July 1915 Christ Church Cradley Heath
Thomas Arthur Griffiths BIRCH 25 B Master Baker Lawrence Lane Old Hill Father Joseph Thomas Birch (Dec) Master Baker
Mary Esther HERRIN 22 S 19 Netherend Cradley Father Henry Jabez Herrin Manager Hardware Works
Wit; Chas G Herrin Hr J Herrin

Does this Help:
1911 Census; Brettell Town, Cradley Heath
Henry Jabez HERRIN hd.54 Licenced Victualler b.Lye
Annie HERRIN wife 46 Marr. 24 yrs. b. Cradley
Esther HERRIN dau.18 Assisting in Business b. Lye
William Henry HERRIN son 10 Schol. b. Cradley
3 children born...3 still living.
Living in 6 Rooms.
Address on Image...Netherend of Cradley, Cradley Heath.

Look up done for Mally By Maggie at archives

*Mally for Fanny L Birch thread
Marriage 1915
BIRCH Thomas A G HERRIN Mary E Cradley Heath, Christ Church Sandwell Register Office 90/2/36
all details please


26 July 1915 Christchurch Cradley Heath
Thomas Arthur Griffiths Birch 25 B Master Baker Lawrence Lane Old Hill Joseph Thomas Birch dec'd Master Baker
Mary Esther Herrin 22 sp 19 Netherend Cradley Henry Jabez Herrin Manager Hardware Works
Wit- Charles G Herrin and H. J Herrin