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*Arc pending look up *--George SIVETER in B'ham/Dudley area

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:28 pm
by inspectorgadget
Hi,

I noticed that there are quite a few people on here from the West Midlands. One of my mother's great grandmother's had the maiden name SIVETER and I've managed to trace her roots to a George SIVETER, generally on the censuses his birth date is down as 1821 but on the Free Death Index it says abt 1818. Birth place is Birmingham, Warwickshire and his occupation was a labourer. On the 1841 census it seems he lives with a mixed bunch, all of which are agricultural workers in the Duddeston/Nechells area. By 1861, he was living in Rowley Regis which is where a great deal of SIVETER's over the years seem to have been born. Does anyone have any ideas on how to link up George SIVETER with any of the 1700 born SIVETER's that float around on the net!?! I'm equally stuck when it comes to his wife Sarah, as I'm unsure of the maiden name.

Thanks

Re: George SIVETER in Birmingham/Dudley area

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:45 pm
by mallosa
Is this him?

1841: 131 Grt Brook Street, Aston, Warwickshire
Jeremiah Marcell 40
George Siveter 20 Born in county Ag Lab
John Danks 35
Jermiah Blunt 20
Maria Blunt 20
George Blunt 1

Re: George SIVETER in Birmingham/Dudley area

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:48 pm
by Jimmy
1851. Gadds Green, Rowley Regis.
George Levites 31. Coal miner. Birmingham. Siveter on image.
Sarah Levites 28.
Thomas Levites 3.
Jane Levites 1 MO.

Others born Rowley Regis.

Re: George SIVETER in Birmingham/Dudley area

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:53 pm
by Jimmy
1861. Rowley Regis.
George Sivetor 40. Labourer.
Sarah Sivetor 37.
Thomas Sivetor 13.
Jane Sivetor 10.
Sarah Sivetor 6.
John Sivetor 3.

Re: George SIVETER in Birmingham/Dudley area

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:54 pm
by mallosa
:?

Marriages Jun 1845
Carter Elizabeth W Bromwich 18 714
Dickes John Bower W. Bromwich 18 714
Dukes John Bown W Bromwich 18 714
Dukes John Brown Wt Bromwich 18 714
Griffiths James Wt Bromwich 18 714
Roberts Mary Ann Wt Bromwich 18 714
Siviter George W Bromwich 18 714
Slim Samuel W Bromwich 18 714
Taylor Sarah W Bromwich 18 714
Whale Ellen W Bromwich 18 714

Marriage 1845
SIVITER George TAYLOR Sarah Oldbury, Christ Church Sandwell Register Office 12/1/77

Re: George SIVETER in Birmingham/Dudley area

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:57 pm
by Jimmy

Re: George SIVETER in Birmingham/Dudley area

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:07 pm
by inspectorgadget
Thanks Jimmy and Mallosa.

It is him on BCC. You'll have to mind my ignorance, as it's the first time I've seen that site today - is there anyway to find out the name of his parents on that site or is he the beginning of the tree?

The marriage looks good, as does the Levites/Siveter situation, thanks for the info :)

Re: George SIVETER in Birmingham/Dudley area

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:12 pm
by Jimmy
You would need the marriage cert or have it checked out at the archives.

Re: George SIVETER in Birmingham/Dudley area

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:24 pm
by mallosa
Yes, as Jimmy said you need either of those

You could do with that marriage being looked up.

Go to the 'Main Board' then scroll down to
'Census, Civil & Parish Registration' - Click on 'Lookup Requests'
and then gointo 'DUDLEY & SMETHWICK --Post your Look ups on this thread'

Scroll down to the bottom, then add your request underneath...

Marriage 1845
SIVITER George TAYLOR Sarah Oldbury, Christ Church Sandwell Register Office 12/1/77

Re: George SIVETER in Birmingham/Dudley area

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:25 am
by peterd
1881: 20 Rowley Village, Rowley Regis, Stafford,


John BROOKES Head W 71 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Annuitant
Thomas SIVITER Son In Law M 33 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Labourer In Stone Quarry
Emma SIVITER Daur M 31 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Nail Maker
William SIVITER Grand Son 7 Windal, Lancashire, Scholar
Elizabeth SIVITER Grand Daur 5 Windal, Lancashire, Scholar
Henry SIVITER Grand Son 2 Windal, Lancashire,
Joseph SIVITER Grand Son 6 m Windal, Lancashire,


right lets rack them and track them any one find them forwards and backwards please

Re: George SIVETER in Birmingham/Dudley area

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 1:54 am
by mallosa
Here's Thomas and Emma...

1891: 17 Moss ? Street, Skelmersdale, Lancs
Thomas Seveter 43 Head Pipe Maker Rowley Regis
Emma Seveter 42 Wife Rowley Regis
William Seveter 17 Son S Coalminer
Elizabeth Seveter 15 Dau St Helen's, Lancs
Henry Seveter 12 Son St Helen's, Lancs
Joseph Seveter 10 Son St Helen's, Lancs
Jane Seveter 7 Dau Skelmersdale, Lanc
Thomas Seveter 5 Son Skelmersdale, Lanc
John Seveter 1 Son Skelmersdale, Lanc

Re: George SIVETER in Birmingham/Dudley area

Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:32 am
by inspectorgadget
Yeah, it seems Thomas married Emma BROOKES, moved from Rowley Regis to St. Helens and later on to Skelmersdale/Lathom, their daughter Jane was my mum's great grandmother.Just about all of her family are from the North West, so it's a bit of a surprise to find some Black Country blood!

Re: George SIVETER in Birmingham/Dudley area

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 6:34 pm
by peterd
inspectorgadget wrote:Hi,

I noticed that there are quite a few people on here from the West Midlands. One of my mother's great grandmother's had the maiden name SIVETER and I've managed to trace her roots to a George SIVETER, generally on the censuses his birth date is down as 1821 but on the Free Death Index it says abt 1818. Birth place is Birmingham, Warwickshire and his occupation was a labourer. On the 1841 census it seems he lives with a mixed bunch, all of which are agricultural workers in the Duddeston/Nechells area. By 1861, he was living in Rowley Regis which is where a great deal of SIVETER's over the years seem to have been born. Does anyone have any ideas on how to link up George SIVETER with any of the 1700 born SIVETER's that float around on the net!?! I'm equally stuck when it comes to his wife Sarah, as I'm unsure of the maiden name.

Thanks



this is weird looks like george siviter is in the workhouse at the same time as james powell ?

James POWELL Other M Male 62 Rowley, Stafford, England Coal Miner
Geo. SIVITER Other W Male 61 Birmingham Laborer In Iron Works


this looks like your george ?





this george birth

GEORGE THOMAS SIVETER
Birth 04 JUN 1819
Christening: 01 JUN 1820 Saint Phillips, Birmingham, Warwick,


Father: THOMAS SIVETER
Mother: JANE ANN

Re: George SIVETER in Birmingham/Dudley area

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:09 pm
by inspectorgadget
Thanks, it's quite likely.. my family have a pretty good track record of finishing off in the Workhouse, good job they've closed them down for my sake!! If Thomas and Jane Ann SIVETER do turn out to be his parents, where do I go from here? I'm never quite sure what to do once the birth dates get into the 1700s!

This is the Death that I was looking at:

Name: George SIVETER
Estimated birth year: abt 1818
Year of Registration: 1882
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 64
District: Dudley (To 1912)
County: Staffordshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 6c

Can't seem to find any record of him in the 1871 census though nor of Jane, Sarah or John but I'm fairly sure this is Thomas:

Name: Thomas SIVITER
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Cradley Heath, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Aston
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Duddeston Cum Nechells
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Registration district: Aston
Sub-registration district: Duddeston

I think that this could be Sarah's death...

Name: Sarah SIVITER
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Year of Registration: 1868
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 46
District: Birmingham (1837-1924)
County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 128 (click to see others on page)

Re: George SIVETER in Birmingham/Dudley area

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:33 pm
by peterd
have you put this marriage on for a look up this is the next thing see if his father was thomas and who are the witnesses might give us a family member ?

Marriage 1845
SIVITER George TAYLOR Sarah Oldbury, Christ Church Sandwell Register Office 12/1/77


RF do you have this ?