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David is the son of Hannah and Joseph Perry, and stepson of Humphrey Coley on another thread.

An Ancestry Tree suggests that Davis's mother's maiden name was Hannah Hingley (1808-1891), and that she is the daughter of James Hingley & Mary Billingham (on BCC here:, but with a different husband).

Hannah's marriage to Joseph Perry is said to have occurred in 1835 in Rowley Regis. Can we confirm this?

She is then said to have married Humphrey Cole in 1865 at Dudley, after Joseph's death in Sep 1855 at Rowley Regis.

The Hannah on BCC is still having children to Robert Brookes in the late 1840s with the last, Henrietta being born in 1850. I think this means that we cannot have the same Hannahs.

Where are this lot in 1841 pls

1851 at Cradley Heath, Rowley Regis
Joseph Perry Head 34 Coal miner b. NK
Hannah Perry Wife 34 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Elanorann Perry Daur 3 MO b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Amelia D Perry Inmate 18 b. Worcs., Hamble


1865 COLEY Humphrey PERRY Hannah Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/023/463

Rocky you about

you got this one
1865
COLEY Humphrey PERRY Hannah Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/023/463

I can look it up if not

I think this could be her

JOSEPH PERRY
Marriages:
Spouse: ANN COLEY
Marriage: 22 DEC 1833 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, Extracted

1861 at High St., Rowley Regis
Hannah Perrey Head W 45 Chain Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Eleanor Ann Perrey Daur 10 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
David Perrey Son 5 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley Regis

1871 at New Town, Rowley Regis
Humphry Coley Head 61 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Hannah Coley Wife 57 Chain Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Eleanor A Perry Wife's Daur 20 Chain Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
David Perry Wife's Son 15 Chain Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis


http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =162594216

dianel wrote:David is the son of Hannah and Joseph Perry, and stepson of Humphrey Coley on another thread.

An Ancestry Tree suggests that Davis's mother's maiden name was Hannah Hingley (1808-1891), and that she is the daughter of James Hingley & Mary Billingham (on BCC here:, but with a different husband).

Hannah's marriage to Joseph Perry is said to have occurred in 1835 in Rowley Regis. Can we confirm this?

She is then said to have married Humphrey Cole in 1865 at Dudley, after Joseph's death in Sep 1855 at Rowley Regis.

The Hannah on BCC is still having children to Robert Brookes in the late 1840s with the last, Henrietta being born in 1850. I think this means that we cannot have the same Hannahs.

I don't think the Hannah Hingley one is right
and if it is....it isnt this one
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =868430434

that one looks ok to me with dau called Leonora after sister

more likely to be that Coley one

but who is that Ann Coley!

I think this is Hannah & Joseph Perry (David's parents) in 1841, and that Dinah is the Amelia D. Perry who is with them as an "inmate" in 1851 - possibly Joseph's sister?

Because of this:
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Amelia Dinah Perry
Name: Amelia Dinah Perry
Year of Registration: 1854
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Dudley (To 1912)
County: Staffordshire, Worcestershire

1841 at Five Ways, Rowley Regis
Joseph Perry 20 Cole miner N
Hanah Perry 20 Y
Dinah Perry 5 Y
Thomas Perry 9 MO Y

dianel wrote:I think this is Hannah & Joseph Perry (David's parents) in 1841, and that Dinah is the Amelia D. Perry who is with them as an "inmate" in 1851 - possibly Joseph's sister?

Because of this:
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Amelia Dinah Perry
Name: Amelia Dinah Perry
Year of Registration: 1854
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Dudley (To 1912)
County: Staffordshire, Worcestershire

1841 at Five Ways, Rowley Regis
Joseph Perry 20 Cole miner N
Hanah Perry 20 Y
Dinah Perry 5 Y
Thomas Perry 9 MO Y

do you fancy adding that in pls Di?

You happy with my conclusion, Jan?

dianel wrote:You happy with my conclusion, Jan?

I am a bit lost on this now

so can i leave you to add what you think
i deffo think that is them in 1841

not sure who Joseph links to or if he is on BCC

could do with the census adding where I havent think I missed the 1871 off

I have these look ups down

1874
PERRY Eleanor A SOUTHALL George Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/031/450
and
1865
COLEY Humphrey PERRY Hannah Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/023/463


so we can see her maiden name I bet it is coley

but I didnt add 1871 so if you could Di I would be real grateful
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

and anything else you think needs going on this

then if you can stick link on this
we can archive
will put as a sticky

dianel wrote:David is the son of Hannah and Joseph Perry, and stepson of Humphrey Coley on another thread.

An Ancestry Tree suggests that Davis's mother's maiden name was Hannah Hingley (1808-1891), and that she is the daughter of James Hingley & Mary Billingham (on BCC here:, but with a different husband).

Hannah's marriage to Joseph Perry is said to have occurred in 1835 in Rowley Regis. Can we confirm this?

She is then said to have married Humphrey Cole in 1865 at Dudley, after Joseph's death in Sep 1855 at Rowley Regis.

The Hannah on BCC is still having children to Robert Brookes in the late 1840s with the last, Henrietta being born in 1850. I think this means that we cannot have the same Hannahs.

That is correct Di, Hannah Hingley daughter of James and Mary did Marry Robert Brookes, witnesses at the Marriage were Hannah's brothers James and Tobias Hingley. Please see these notes from the Will of James Hingley:-

Martha married Benjamin Col(l)ey, a chain maker, and had six children. Benjamin was born in Kingswinford, which is where he married Martha. The couple's children were all baptised in Cradley parish church. Hannah married Robert Brooks, who was born in Amblecote, in Rowley Regis parish church on 1 August 1824. Their first two children were born in Rowley Regis, their third in Cradley Heath and their forth in Stourbridge, apparently. The first three children were baptised in Park Lane Presbyterian chapel, the forth in the Stourbridge's Wesleyan chapel. In the 1830's the family moved to Liverpool where another six children were born before the family moved back to the Black Country in late 1850 or ealry the following year. Why Robert took his family to Liverpool is not known. He became a steel drawer on his return.

HTH from Linell.

Thanks Lin I thought so.

I'll add those census, Jan. Not having much success linking Joseph to other Perrys.

David Perry's census and kids on here:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =835710951

Hannah Unknown/Perry/Coley census on here:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =537507991

Hannah & Joseph census on here:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =570998033

Hannah & Humphrey census on here:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =798231906

Great thanks Di

will now archive and look those marriges up too!