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*Archive* Split Topic- Thomas Gill born abt 1850
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:44 pm
by grangers14
Northern Lass wrote:dianel wrote:We need to be careful with these marriages as there is at least one more Thomas Gill abt 1846, born Rowley Regis, father Thomas.
1851 New St., Quarry Bank
Thomas Gill Head 40 Iron Stone Miner b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Elizabeth Gill Wife 41 b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Elizabeth Gill Daur 15 Nailor b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Unicius Gill Daur 13 Nailor b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Ann Gill Daur 10 Nailor b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Sarah Gill Daur 9 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Thomas Gill Son 5 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Martha Gill Daur 2yr b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Rite let's get this one sorted .... I hate not having it added to the tree any look ups I do!
and this one is a pain!!
So we have 2 Thomas Gills b abt 1846.
We need the above family on the 1861 to see if there is a William there born maybe 1851 (later so misses census)
cos think that is the key to our Thomas who married Louisa Jeavons
if he did
cos on that 1871 he is living next door?
same hsehold?
as a William Gill and wife Dinah?
that must be his brother
and the only one I think from memory with bro William is that one here........
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =841515972The one above I dont think had a William bro in 1861.
Also can we find this one above in 1871
I think he is in Quarry bank area then with wife Esther/Edna she is I believe a Rutter as that name is I think on that page
but it was late last nite so might have been wrong.
The only marriage it can be is to a Louisa Jeavons
and a Louisa Gill dies in 1869
the other marriages that are poss betw 1861-1871 are...
1861
GILL Thomas LASHFORD Harriett Tipton, St Martin (Pepper Box) Sandwell Register Office 39/9/440
this one he is too young
1866
GILL Thomas RUTTER Edna Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/024/370
this one is the one above I think....can some one look at that 1871 please
1869
GILL Thomas JEAVONS Louisa Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/4/78
I think it is this one
1871
GILL Thomas MASTERS Elizabeth E Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/029/104 this one is too late as Dec regis
so need help guys!

footnote.....the Dob 1854 matches the Ann Partridge on marriage with the Ann in census
also the name Samuel is I think her brother? but is on marriage as a Witness
They call one of their kids Samuel later in a census
This is a look up from this thread.
11 Dec 1871 - St Thomas, Dudley, By Banns
Thomas Gill (X), 21, B, Puddler, of Dudley, Father Joseph Gill, Miner
Elizabeth Esther Masters (X), 20, S, of Dudley, Father John Masters, Labourer
Wit : Samuel Jukes, Thomas Wright and George Henry Masters (X)
Its not been added to BCC because I haven't followed this and not sure where it should go!
Jo

Re: *Look up done!* -Thomas Gill
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 3:47 pm
by Northern Lass
nor have I!
will have a look when I get a min
Re: Split Topic- Thomas Gill born abt 1850
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:39 pm
by Northern Lass
Re: Split Topic- Thomas Gill born abt 1850
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:41 pm
by grangers14
Ive split this because I dont think this family is on BCC and its too confusing otherwise!
Jo

Re: Split Topic- Thomas Gill born abt 1850
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:47 pm
by grangers14
??
1851. Low Town, Dudley
Joseph Gill, head, 42,Coal Miner,
Rebecca, wife, 45,
William, son, 21, Coal Miner
Joseph, son, 14, Coal Miner,
Benjamin, son, 11, Coal Miner,
Mary Ann, daur, 7,
Phyllis, daur, 5,
Thomas, son, 2,
All born Dudley
1861. bu? Hole? Dudley
Rebecca Gill, head, W, 57,
Joseph, son, 24, Collier
Benjamin, son, 22, Colier,
Thomas, son, 12, Collier
/Benjamin Law, Boarder, W, 78, out of work miner
Isaac Law, Boarder, 18, Collier
All born Dudley
Re: Split Topic- Thomas Gill born abt 1850
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:05 pm
by grangers14
??
Cant read address well...
1871. ?bridge Road, Dudley
Mary Gill, head, W, 26,
Emily, daur, 2,
Joseph, son, 8 months,
Benjamin, Nephew, 3,
/Benjamin Gill, Lodger, 32, Miner
/Thomas Gill, Lodger, 22, Miner
All born Dudley
Re: Split Topic- Thomas Gill born abt 1850
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:43 am
by grangers14
Or is this them with Masters living nextdoor??
1881. 19 Greets Green, West bromwich
Thomas Gill, head, 27, Puddler
Elizabeth, wife, 27, Ireland
Joshua, son, 4,
John, son, 2
All others born West bromwich
House previous
John Masters, head, 61, Labourer, Warwick
Ellen, wife, 56, Winchester, Hampshire
house after,
William Gill, head, 24, Puddler,
Hannah, wife, 23,
William, son, 3,
Mary A, daur, 1
All born West Bromwich
1871. Greets Green Road, Whites Row, West Bromwich
Joseph Gill, head, 50, Miner, West Bromwich
Mary, wife, 50, Tipton
Thomas, son, 15? Puddler
Caroline, daur, 22,
William, son, 14,
Phoebe, daur, 12,
Jess? son, 7,
All others born Greets Green
Next door is,
John Masters, head, 50, Coal Dealer, Warwickshire
Ellen, wife, 45, Leamington
Elizabeth, daur, 19, Gleed? washer, Cannock Ireland
Thomas, grand son, 7, Greets Green
Re: Split Topic- Thomas Gill born abt 1850
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:01 am
by grangers14
1891. 4 Back of Oldbury Road,
Thomas Gill, head, 37, Iron Puddler
Elizabeth, wife, 38, Cork ireland
Joshua, son, 14, iron Roller,
John T, son, 12,
Elizabeth E, daur, 4
All others born West Bromwich
1901. 75 Oldbury Road, West Bromwich
Thomas gill, head, 49, Puddler in iron Works
Elizabeth, wife, 49, Ireland
Joshua, son, 24, Bolter iron works
John T, son, 22, Pudder,
Mary Jane Priest, visitor, 15, Dudley
Joseph Gill, father, W, 83,
All others born West bromwich
Re: Split Topic- Thomas Gill born abt 1850
Posted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:08 am
by grangers14
I think 1911 clinches it. Shows Elizabeths middle name of Esther too
1911. 5 Bagotts Building Oldbury Road West Bromwich
GILL, Elizabeth Ester Head Married F 60 1851 Ireland Galway Married 40 years, 6 children 2 living
GILL, Elizabeth Ellen Granddaughter F 8 1903 School Staff West Bromwich
Re: Split Topic- Thomas Gill born abt 1850
Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:26 pm
by Northern Lass
What we doing with this one Jo?
Re: Split Topic- Thomas Gill born abt 1850
Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:49 pm
by rockyfowler
14 Feb 1869 St Giles Rowley regis
Thomas GILL 22 B Miner Old Hill Father Thomas Gill Miner
Louisa JEAVONS 19 S Spring Meadow Father David Jeavons Labourer After Banns The Marks Of Both
Wit; John Pearson X Sarah ann Pearson X
Re: Split Topic- Thomas Gill born abt 1850
Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:36 pm
by grangers14
Thanks RF thats on BCC
This is another one.
The latest census is right to that marriage I think NL.
I think it may be the Masters and Gills living next to each other in earlier census.
Jo

Re: Split Topic- Thomas Gill born abt 1850
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:50 am
by Northern Lass
Jo I am not up to speed with this one
can you sort and add etc then we can archive this thread
Re: Split Topic- Thomas Gill born abt 1850
Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:48 pm
by grangers14