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James Powell of Rowley Regis - Pd will add
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:18 pm
by mommy_edwards
Hi, I need help finding my 10 year brick wall - James Powell, supposedly from Rowley Regis. According to census, marriage and death records, James was born about 1820 in Rowley but I have searched and searched the parish registers of the area and immediately beyond. James Powell married Mary Ann Jarvis at St Thomas' Dudley in 1842. Gave his father as William Powell. NT on 1841 census in the area. Mary and James had Rosannah, Mary Ann, Eliza, Ruth, James and George. Any clues gratefully received.
Re: James Powell of Rowley Regis
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:25 pm
by peterd
do you have the marriage cert, who were the witnesses on marriage cert, father occupation and address
Re: James Powell of Rowley Regis
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:29 pm
by peterd
submitted could this be cradley Worcestershire
James Powell
Christening: 24 FEB 1822 Cradley, Hereford, England
Father: William Powell
Mother: Hannah Nicholas
any one got the PR to check it out
Re: James Powell of Rowley Regis
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:32 pm
by rockyfowler
28 Nov 1842 St Thomas Dudley
James POWELL F B Miner Netherton Father William Powell Nailer
Mary Ann JARVIS F B Netherton Father William Jarvis Miner The Marks of Both
Wit; Benjamin Powell X Ann Barnsley X
Re: James Powell of Rowley Regis
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:34 pm
by peterd
so poss brother benjamin
Re: James Powell of Rowley Regis
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:38 pm
by Jimmy
1851. Back of Garratts Lane, Rowley Regis.
James Powell 30. Coalminer.
Mary A Powell 27. Dudley.
Rosannah Powell 8.
Mary A Powell 2.
Others born Rowley Regis.
Re: James Powell of Rowley Regis
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:39 pm
by Jimmy
peterd wrote:submitted could this be cradley Worcestershire
James Powell
Christening: 24 FEB 1822 Cradley, Hereford, England
Father: William Powell
Mother: Hannah Nicholas
any one got the PR to check it out
There is also a Cradley on the Worcestershire/ Herefordshire border.
Re: James Powell of Rowley Regis
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:46 pm
by peterd
rockyfowler wrote:28 Nov 1842 St Thomas Dudley
James POWELL F B Miner Netherton Father William Powell Nailer
Mary Ann JARVIS F B Netherton Father William Jarvis Miner The Marks of Both
Wit; Benjamin Powell X Ann Barnsley X
you got this one rf is his father william ?
POWELL Benjamin JONES Jane 1841 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/004/32
Re: James Powell of Rowley Regis
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:49 pm
by peterd
Jimmy wrote:1851. Back of Garratts Lane, Rowley Regis.
James Powell 30. Coalminer.
Mary A Powell 27. Dudley.
Rosannah Powell 8.
Mary A Powell 2.
Others born Rowley Regis.
any powells on images near jimmy ?
Re: James Powell of Rowley Regis
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:51 pm
by Jimmy
peterd wrote:rockyfowler wrote:28 Nov 1842 St Thomas Dudley
James POWELL F B Miner Netherton Father William Powell Nailer
Mary Ann JARVIS F B Netherton Father William Jarvis Miner The Marks of Both
Wit; Benjamin Powell X Ann Barnsley X
you got this one rf is his father william ?
POWELL Benjamin JONES Jane 1841 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/004/32
Benjamin Powell.
Bride's Name Jane Jones.
Marriage Date 15 Mar 1841.
Marriage Place Dudley, Worcester.
Groom's Father's Name John Powell.
Bride's Father's Name Edward Jones.
Groom's Marital Status Single.
Bride's Marital Status Single.
Re: James Powell of Rowley Regis
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:53 pm
by peterd
thats not james brother then on that marriage
Re: James Powell of Rowley Regis
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:54 pm
by Jimmy
I can't see any Pete.
Re: James Powell of Rowley Regis
Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:54 pm
by Jimmy
1841. Kingswinford.
James Powel 20. Stoneminer. Born in county.
Elizabeth Cox 10.
Re: James Powell of Rowley Regis
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 7:42 pm
by mommy_edwards
Wow! You lot are good!
I wasn't expecting such a response. I have more information.
On 1871 census, James was living with John Powell, listed as his Uncle. On another census (I forget which, sorry) John Powell is living with a William Powell and Sarah Powell as brother. On another census (1871??), William Powell is possible mis-transcribed as Thomas and has a sister, Mary Powell, living with him.
The marriage of John Powell and Mary Grove gives John's father as William Powell. The marriage of William Powell to Sarah Wakeman gives father as William Powell. It is my belief therefore, that James Powell had a brother WIlliam Powell who had at least 3 children- William, John and Mary. What do you think?
There is another discussion thread relating to William Powell and Sarah Wakeman, which, to my knowledge, has not thrown up any light on the origins of this family. William Powell was a widower when he married Sarah Wakeman.
Interestingly, I had missed the Benjamin Powell as witness. Also, there is a Cradley in the West Midlands but it is on the Worcs/Staffs border not Worcs/Hereford border. That Cradley is near Malvern, I think.
Thanks People and please, please keep helping me cos I am well and truly STUCK.
Jayne
Re: James Powell of Rowley Regis
Posted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 7:58 pm
by mommy_edwards
And,
there is a connection with Gideon Steventon. He married an Eliza Powell. I have no certificate for this marriage....
The connection is as follows:
James Powell's son James Powell was arrested and tried for Larceny with Joseph Steventon. On the census, they are living with a William Powell and a Thomas Siviter, all of these were arrested with James Powell at some point over his long criminal career.