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Can we find an accurate dob for him pls
father is a James too

26 Dec 1847 St Thomas Dudley
James Homer of full age widower tracemaker Dudley James Homer Gun Maker
Ann Massey of full age spinster Dudley John Massey dec'd back? Hansom plater
Banns
X both
Wit- X William Perry / X Mary Massey

not sure on occup for anns father but opening thread for her
so can we keep this for the Homers pls

This appears to be the family but I can't quite sort it

1841 Five Ways, Rowley Regis
HOMER, James M 60 1781 Staffordshire Ag Lab
HOMER, Mary F 60 1781 Staffordshire
HOMER, James M 20 1821 Chain M
HOMER, Emma F 20 1821 Staffordshire
HOMER, Joseph M 2 1839 Staffordshire
HOMER, James M 0 (10 months) 1841 Staffordshire
WHITE, Mary F 14 1827

Next door
HOMER, Absolom M 30 1811 Staffordshire Gun Smith
HOMER, Mary F 34 1807 Nailer
HOMER, Mary F 7 1834 Staffordshire
HOMER, Samuel M 5 1836 Staffordshire
HOMER, Elizebeth F 2 1839 Staffordshire
ABBLEY, William M 30 1811

3 doors away
FELLOWS, Thomas M 65 1776 Staffordshire Shop Man
FELLOWS, Hannah F 60 1781 Staffordshire
HOMER, William M 30 1811 Staffordshire Gun Barrel Welder
HOMER, Hannah F 30 1811 Staffordshire
HOMER, Mary F 10 1831 Staffordshire
HOMER, Phebe F 9 1832 Staffordshire
HOMER, Neahemah M 7 1834 Staffordshire
HOMER, Philliss F 4 1837 Staffordshire
HOMER, William M 2 1839 Staffordshire

1851 Cradley Heath, Rowley Regis
HOMER, James Head Married M 70 1781 Pauper Gun Barrell Welder Rowley Staffordshire
HOMER, Mary Wife Married F 66 1785 Pauper Rowley Staffordshire
HOMER, James Son Married M 33 1818 Chain Maker Rowley Staffordshire
HOMER, Ann Daughter-In-Law Married F 32 1819 Birmingham Warwickshire
HOMER, Joseph Grand Son M 14 1837 Trace Maker Rowley Staffordshire
HOMER, James Grand Son M 11 1840 Trace Maker Rowley Staffordshire
HOMER, Alfred Grand Son M 8 1843 Scholar Rowley Staffordshire
HOMER, Mary Ann Grand Daughter F 6 1845 Scholar Rowley Staffordshire
HOMER, Elizabeth Grand Daughter F 3 1848 Scholar Rowley Staffordshire

NOw what is going on?

1861 High Street, Rowley Regis
HOMER, James Head Married M 44 1817 Chain Maker Poplar Middlesex
HOMER, Ann Wife Married F 42 1819 Chain Maker Birmingham Warwickshire
HOMER, Joseph Son Unmarried M 22 1839 Chain Maker Cradley Heath Staffordshire
HOMER, James Son Unmarried M 20 1841 Chain Maker Cradley Heath Staffordshire
HOMER, Alfred Son Unmarried M 18 1843 Chain Maker Cradley Heath Staffordshire
HOMER, Mary Ann Daughter Unmarried F 16 1845 Scholar Cradley Heath Staffordshire
HOMER, Elizabeth Daughter F 13 1848 Scholar Cradley Heath Staffordshire
HOMER, Charles Son M 9 1852 Scholar Cradley Heath Staffordshire
HOMER, John Son M 6 1855 Scholar Cradley Heath Staffordshire
HOMER, Ann Daughter F 4 1857 Scholar Cradley Heath Staffordshire
HOMER, William Son M 2 1859 Scholar Cradley Heath Staffordshire

1871 High Street, Rowley Regis
HOMER, James Head M 54 1817 Middlesex Chain Maker
HOMER, Ann Wife F 50 1821 Warwickshire
HOMER, Charles Son M 20 1851 Staffordshire
HOMER, John Son M 18 1853 Staffordshire
HOMER, Annie Daughter F 13 1858 Staffordshire
HOMER, William Son M 10 1861 Staffordshire
HOMER, Harry Son M 5 1866 Staffordshire


Have I picked up on the wrong James HOmer or is he living in a fantasy land?

Maths girl wrote:1851 Cradley Heath, Rowley Regis
HOMER, James Head Married M 70 1781 Pauper Gun Barrell Welder Rowley Staffordshire
HOMER, Mary Wife Married F 66 1785 Pauper Rowley Staffordshire
HOMER, James Son Married M 33 1818 Chain Maker Rowley Staffordshire
HOMER, Ann Daughter-In-Law Married F 32 1819 Birmingham Warwickshire
HOMER, Joseph Grand Son M 14 1837 Trace Maker Rowley Staffordshire
HOMER, James Grand Son M 11 1840 Trace Maker Rowley Staffordshire
HOMER, Alfred Grand Son M 8 1843 Scholar Rowley Staffordshire
HOMER, Mary Ann Grand Daughter F 6 1845 Scholar Rowley Staffordshire
HOMER, Elizabeth Grand Daughter F 3 1848 Scholar Rowley Staffordshire

This looks ok for our James a chainmaker with wife ann and father James

If it is the one I have inmy notes then I believe he has the following children with his first wife.

Joseph Homer abt 1838 Rowley
James Homer abt 1841 Cradley Heath
Alfred Homer abt 1843 Cradley Heath
Mary Ann Homer abt 1845 Cradley Heath

With his second wife....

Elizabeth Homer abt 1848 Cradley Heath
Charles Homer abt 1851 Rowley Regis
John Homer abt 1854 Rowley Regis
Ann Homer abt 1857 Rowley Regis

There is a Henry (Harry) Homer who might be a child but more likely a Grand Child born 1866 Rowley Regis.

There is a James Homer born 7th April 1818 with parents James (a Smith) amd mother Mary. They are living in Poplar when James is baptised on the 23rd Nov 1823.

I would say his father is a Journeyman so the birth in Middlesex is not out of the question.

He had a sister, Maria, born 30th June 1821 and Baptised the same day.

Another sister, Rosina Miles(?) born 3rd August 1822 and Baptised the same day.

Do you have the first marriage Mark

I am adding some of this lot now

You will find it on Ancestry along with the original parish registry entry.

This is a Homer thread I have not pursued as I am unsure if it connects with mine so I only had brief notes.

Northern Lass wrote:Can we find an accurate dob for him pls
father is a James too

26 Dec 1847 St Thomas Dudley
James Homer of full age widower tracemaker Dudley James Homer Gun Maker
Ann Massey of full age spinster Dudley John Massey dec'd back? Hansom plater
Banns
X both
Wit- X William Perry / X Mary Massey

not sure on occup for anns father but opening thread for her
so can we keep this for the Homers pls

Tracemaker or Tracer Worked in a draughting office, copying engineering diagrams, using tracing paper. In the days before photocopying, plans and diagrams for mining and manufacturing industries were copied by hand. It required accuracy, patience and a knack for using the pen without producing ink blots

From : http://rmhh.co.uk/occup/index.html - Old Occupations - Hall Genealogy Website

MarkCDodd wrote:You will find it on Ancestry along with the original parish registry entry.

What is the link pls or tree name
so I can find it

Antie Em wrote:

Northern Lass wrote:Can we find an accurate dob for him pls
father is a James too

26 Dec 1847 St Thomas Dudley
James Homer of full age widower tracemaker Dudley James Homer Gun Maker
Ann Massey of full age spinster Dudley John Massey dec'd back? Hansom plater
Banns
X both
Wit- X William Perry / X Mary Massey

not sure on occup for anns father but opening thread for her
so can we keep this for the Homers pls

Tracemaker or Tracer Worked in a draughting office, copying engineering diagrams, using tracing paper. In the days before photocopying, plans and diagrams for mining and manufacturing industries were copied by hand. It required accuracy, patience and a knack for using the pen without producing ink blots

From : http://rmhh.co.uk/occup/index.html - Old Occupations - Hall Genealogy Website

tracemaker is also a chainmaker
think they are to do with horse chains

So is his first wife that Emma on 1841


James Homer Marriages:
Spouse: Emma Yardley
Marriage: 20 MAY 1838 Kingswinford, Stafford, Extracted