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*Help pls adding to BCC* ---Emma Williams

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:37 am
by Northern Lass
Can we find her on census in 1841 pls

need dob for father John

1848 : St John The Baptist, Halesowen - By Banns (Need Date)
Emma Williams, 19, S, Boro, Father John Williams, Shoemaker
Thomas Hall, OFA, B, Modeller, Boro, Father Thomas Hall, Chaser
Wit : Joseph Baker and Matilda Baker

Re: Emma Williams

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:00 am
by Jimmy
1851. Lapal, Halesowen.
John Williams 50. Cordwainer.
Mary Williams 56.
George Williams 28. Son.
Frances Greaves 14. Daughter-in-Law.
George Greaves 9. Son in law.
James Greaves 6. Son in law.
Hannah Williams 3. Dau.
Eliza Williams 5 MO. Dau.

All born Halesowen.

Re: Emma Williams

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:47 am
by Northern Lass
Jimmy wrote:1851. Lapal, Halesowen.
John Williams 50. Cordwainer.
Mary Williams 56.
George Williams 28. Son.
Frances Greaves 14. Daughter-in-Law.
George Greaves 9. Son in law.
James Greaves 6. Son in law.
Hannah Williams 3. Dau.
Eliza Williams 5 MO. Dau.

All born Halesowen.


that looks like them and that Mary must be a second wife

cos this looks like Emmas bapt

EMMA WILLIAMS
Christening: 03 MAY 1829 Halesowen, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: JOHN WILLIAMS
Mother: ANN Extracted

Re: Emma Williams

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:38 pm
by Jimmy
West Midlands Marriage 1846.
WILLIAM John, GREAVES Mary, Stourbridge Register Office, Dudley Register Office, 001/001/53.

1841. Hasbury.
James Greaves 25. Nailer.
Mary Greaves 25.
Fanney Greaves 4.
Ann Greaves 1.

Re: Emma Williams

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:03 pm
by Jimmy
Northern Lass wrote:.

EMMA WILLIAMS.
Christening: 03 MAY 1829 Halesowen, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: JOHN WILLIAMS
Mother: ANN Extracted


There is also this Emma.

1841. Cornbow St, Halesowen.
John Williams 45. Nailer.
Ann Williams 45.
Barzillia Williams 15.
Sarah Williams 11.
Emma Williams 11.
George Williams 7.

All born in County.

1851. Great Cornbow, Halesowen.
John Williams 57. Nailer.
Ann Williams 58. Baker.
Emma Williams 22. Mar. Dress maker.
George Williams 17.

Re: Emma Williams

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:06 pm
by Northern Lass
what is the r'ship on the 1851 pls for Emma to that James

Re: Emma Williams

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:20 pm
by Jimmy
Jimmy wrote:
1851. Great Cornbow, Halesowen.
John Williams 57. Nailer.
Ann Williams 58. Baker.
Emma Williams 22. Mar. Dress maker.
George Williams 17.


If you mean this one Emma is a daughter.

Re: Emma Williams

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:23 pm
by Northern Lass
Northern Lass wrote:Can we find her on census in 1841 pls

need dob for father John

1848 : St John The Baptist, Halesowen - By Banns (Need Date)
Emma Williams, 19, S, Boro, Father John Williams, Shoemaker
Thomas Hall, OFA, B, Modeller, Boro, Father Thomas Hall, Chaser
Wit : Joseph Baker and Matilda Baker


Do we have this couple on later census see where she is born

Re: Emma Williams

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:26 pm
by Jimmy
Can't see them as yet.

Re: Emma Williams

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:29 pm
by Northern Lass
Jimmy wrote:1851. Lapal, Halesowen.
John Williams 50. Cordwainer.
Mary Williams 56.
George Williams 28. Son.
Frances Greaves 14. Daughter-in-Law.
George Greaves 9. Son in law.
James Greaves 6. Son in law.
Hannah Williams 3. Dau.
Eliza Williams 5 MO. Dau.

All born Halesowen.


GEORGE WILLIAMS Christening: 18 APR 1823 Halesowen, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: JOHN WILLIAMS
Mother: SARAH Extracted birth

Re: Emma Williams

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:07 pm
by Jimmy
1851. Edgbaston.
Thomas Hall 30. Modeller. Birm, Warwickshire.
Emma Hall 23. Shrewsbury, Shropshire.

Re: Emma Williams

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:10 pm
by Jimmy
1841. Lilleshall, Shropshire.
John Williams 35. Labourer.
Sarah Williams 35.
Thomas Williams 19.
George Williams 17.
Henry Williams 15.
Emma Williams 12.

All borm in Shropshire.

Re: Emma Williams

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:18 pm
by Jimmy
Thomas Williams.
Baptism/Christening Date 13 Oct 1822.
Baptism/Christening Place LILLESHALL,SHROPSHIRE.
Father's Name John Williams.
Mother's Name Sarah.

George Williams.
Baptism/Christening Date 12 Sep 1824.
Baptism/Christening Place LILLESHALL,SHROPSHIRE.
Father's Name John Williams.
Mother's Name Sarah.

Henry Williams.
Baptism/Christening Date 23 Apr 1826.
Baptism/Christening Place LILLESHALL,SHROPSHIRE.
Father's Name John Williams.
Mother's Name Sarah.

Emma Williams.
Baptism/Christening Date 07 Jun 1829.
Baptism/Christening Place LILLESHALL,SHROPSHIRE.
Father's Name John Williams.
Mother's Name Sarah.

Re: Emma Williams

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:29 pm
by Northern Lass
Jimmy wrote:1841. Lilleshall, Shropshire.
John Williams 35. Labourer.
Sarah Williams 35.
Thomas Williams 19.
George Williams 17.
Henry Williams 15.
Emma Williams 12.

All borm in Shropshire.


So do you think this is her then Jimmy based on that 1851 census
it looks good I think

wonder why she put cordwainer

Re: Emma Williams

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:31 pm
by Northern Lass
Jimmy wrote:1841. Lilleshall, Shropshire.
John Williams 35. Labourer.
Sarah Williams 35.
Thomas Williams 19.
George Williams 17.
Henry Williams 15.
Emma Williams 12.

All borm in Shropshire.


so is this same family then

1851. Lapal, Halesowen.
John Williams 50. Cordwainer.
Mary Williams 56.
George Williams 28. Son.
Frances Greaves 14. Daughter-in-Law.
George Greaves 9. Son in law.
James Greaves 6. Son in law.
Hannah Williams 3. Dau.
Eliza Williams 5 MO. Dau.

All born Halesowen.