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*Arc tbc* ---John Williams and father James
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:31 am
by Northern Lass
This look up has been done for Rob by Maggie
can we find John and wife on census
need an accurate dob pls
will open thread for Elizabeth
17.04.1843 - St John, Halesowen - By Banns
John Williams (X), FA, Chain Maker, Gosty Hill, Father James Williams, Nailer
Elizabeth Willetts (X), FA, S, Nailer, Gosty Hill, Father John Willetts, Nailer
Wit : George Fiddian and Ann Willetts (X)
father for John is James .....
Is this James??
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =656935013Rob how do these williams connect to you
is the line on BCC already
Re: John Williams and father James
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 11:23 am
by Northern Lass
This may be James
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =759087854bro to George lloyd williams...robs line
wonder if that earlier James is bro to John
Re: John Williams and father James
Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:43 pm
by Rob
I'm not at home at the moment but as soon as i do so i will sort my records out and get back to you with anything i have.
Oh and thanks Jan for the look ups!!

Re: John Williams and father James
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:41 pm
by dianel
1851 at Spinners End, Rowley Regis
Entry 136:
John Williams Head 31 Chain Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Williams Wife 32 Chain Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Elijah Williams Son 7 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
James Williams Son 4 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Lucy Williams Daur 3 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Alfred Williams Son 1 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
At Entry 138:
John Willetts Head 70 Chain Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Willetts Wife 70 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
James Willetts Son 37 Chain Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
At Entry 139:
James Williams Head 52 Nailor b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Phebe Williams Wife 54 Nailor b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Daniel Williams Son 19 Chain Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Re: John Williams and father James
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:46 pm
by Northern Lass
Can we link JOhn to James as son
on earlier census
bapt?
and then James as brother to George williams

Re: John Williams and father James
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:52 pm
by dianel
1841 at Four Ways, Rowley Regis (Next door to Elizabeth Willetts and her parents, John & Elizabeth)
James Williams 40 Nailer
Phebe Williams 40
John Williams 20 Chain Maker
Isaiah Williams 18 Chain Maker
Benjn Williams 14 Chain Maker
Daniel Williams 9
All born in county
Re: John Williams and father James
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:56 pm
by dianel
IGI Extracted:
Results for: Williams, Birth/Christening, British Isles
Father: James , Mother: Phebe
Batch Number: C093711
1. JOHN WILLIAMS -Christening: 27 AUG 1820 Park Lane Presbyterian, Cradley, Worcester, England
2. ISAIAH WILLIAMS -Christening: 11 MAR 1824 Park Lane Presbyterian, Cradley, Worcester, England
Re: John Williams and father James
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:06 pm
by Northern Lass
I will start adding this
Re: John Williams and father James
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:09 pm
by dianel
Poss.?
IGI extracted:
JAMES WILLIAMS
Spouse: PHEBE PRIEST
Marriage: 06 JUN 1819 Old Swinford, Worcester, England
Re: John Williams and father James
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:12 pm
by dianel
Poss.:
IGI Extracted:
JAMES WILLIAMS
Birth: 1798
Christening: 26 NOV 1800 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Father: BENJN. WILLIAMS
Mother: SARAH
OR
IGI Extracted:
JAS. WILLIAMS
Christening: 04 NOV 1804 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Father: ELIJAH WILLIAMS
Mother: RACHL.
John & Elizabeth named a son Elijah.
Re: John Williams and father James
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:14 pm
by Northern Lass
Re: John Williams and father James
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:16 pm
by dianel
No, I don't think that connection works at all.
Re: John Williams and father James
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:16 pm
by Northern Lass
dianel wrote:Poss.:
IGI Extracted:
JAMES WILLIAMS
Birth: 1798
Christening: 26 NOV 1800 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Father: BENJN. WILLIAMS
Mother: SARAH
OR
IGI Extracted:
JAS. WILLIAMS
Christening: 04 NOV 1804 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Father: ELIJAH WILLIAMS
Mother: RACHL.
John & Elizabeth named a son Elijah.
agree Di think it is one of those
not the one with bro George Lloyd
Re: John Williams and father James
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:18 pm
by Northern Lass
I agree this one could be it
IGI Extracted:
JAS. WILLIAMS
Christening: 04 NOV 1804 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Father: ELIJAH WILLIAMS
Mother: RACHL.
Re: John Williams and father James
Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:12 pm
by Northern Lass
Added this so unless anyone wishes to run with this anymore
will archive