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Hi folks,
looking for help again please, this time with the 1871 census...
William Parrish born 1845 Brierley Hill Kingswinford and Caroline born 1849 Kingswinford.
Married 1868 in Birmingham.
I have them both in 61 census (pre marriage) in Kingswinford
and I have them in 81 census together in Kingswinford

However I cannot find them in 71?

In 68 they had a daughter Mary Ann (born Birmingham, aston) who in 71 is living with her Grandparents (Norwood: Carolines Parents) In Kingswinford...
So where are Mom and Dad?
Hopeing you can help
thanks

Hi Kdp I've tried Ancestry & Findmypast and can't find a William or Caroline on the 1871 , they are like you say there in 1861/ 81/ 91 so sorry .

Annie

Thank you for taking the time to look annie, much appreciated

Going by the birth place of the first 2 children, they could be in the Birmingham area.

1881. Kingswinford.
William Parrish 36. Brockmoor.
Caroline Parrish 31. Buckpool.
Mary Ann Parrish 12. Bham, Warwickshire.
Thomas Parrish 7. Bham, Warwickshire.
Ann Maria Parrish 5. Brockmoor.
Elizabeth Parrish 2. Bromley.

What we learn from when they fill informs badly! Does it help?

1911 H H 3ct Keeley St Small Heath
PARISH, Caroline Head Widow F 57 1854 Dudley Rd Halesowen
PARISH, George Son Single M 21 1890 Wire Drawer's Labourer Cardigan St Bham
PARISH, Louisa Daughter Single F 19 1892 Brass Polisher Witton St Bham
BRAYNE, Shadrach Thomas Boarder Single M 24 1887 Brass Worker Tester Finstock Oxford

From looking at the original which Caroline had filled in incorrectly -- she states the marriage was 36 years,(unless she meant 36 years since she got married)
10 children born 7 still alive

1901
PARRISH, William Head Married M 56 1845 Labourer At Coal Yard Birmingham Warwickshire
PARRISH, Caroline Wife Married F 51 1850 Birmingham Warwickshire
PARRISH, Ann Maria Daughter Single F 25 1876 Birmingham Warwickshire
PARRISH, Harriet Daughter Single F 17 1884 Hinge Worker Birmingham Warwickshire
PARRISH, John William Grand Son M 2 1899 Birmingham Warwickshire

1891 not found

1881
PARRISH, William Head Married M 36 1845 Labourer Brockmoor Staffordshire
PARRISH, Caroline Wife Married F 31 1850 Buckpool
PARRISH, Mary Ann Daughter Single F 12 1869 Bham Warwickshire
PARRISH, Thomas Son Single M 7 1874 Bham Warwickshire
PARRISH, Ann Maria Daughter Single F 5 1876 BrockmoorStaffordshire
PARRISH, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 2 1879 Bromley Staffordshire

Are those all the same family ?

So children that appear

Mary Ann b 1868 -- in 1871 with Grandparents, 1881 with parents
Thomas b 1874 -- 1881 with parents
Ann Maria b 1876 -- 1881 & 1891 with parents,
Elizabeth b 1879 -- 1881 with parents

Harriett b 1884 -- 1901 with parents

George b 1890 -- 1911 with mother
Louisa b 1892 -- 1911 with mother

well that is 7 children still alive but they don't seem to spend large amounts of time with parents -- they seem to be on a rota!

and who does John William grandson belong to?

A lot of Census's Pieces are missing, I did see a great long list of the missing once!

Linell.

Thank guys, yes that is them..
though not in 1911 mathgirl
In 1891 they were living at 48 adams street, aston, birmingham.
Caroline died in 1901 in aston, obviously after the census was taken lol and joh died in 1907.
If they were in birmingham in 71 I cannot find them
thanks all x

Thanks mathgirl

I have those children plus an emily born in 1882, However I dont think george and louisa are theirs...at least i havent come across them

John William is Ann Maria's illigitimate child, my great grandfather

I was looking too and couldnt see them.

I wonder if some census is missing from that area?

I have been looking and unable find another family there in 1871.

Jo

Thanks jo

Maybe that would explain why i cant find them then

Maths girl wrote:Mary Ann b 1868 -- in 1871 with Grandparents, 1881 with parents
Thomas b 1874 -- 1881 with parents
Ann Maria b 1876 -- 1881 & 1891 with parents,
Elizabeth b 1879 -- 1881 with parents

Harriett b 1884 -- 1901 with parents

Ok so you have the above plus Emily b 1882


My guess is that Mary Ann was with Grandparents while they had another baby in 1871 -- as that is a big gap 1868 - 1874 for someone who then went on to have babies the standard every 2-3 years.

Any more Parrish children born right area 1870-1871 who might be siblings? -- if there arenot too many births that cannot be accounted for on the census it might be worth looking for baptisms before the ultimate of speculating on birth certificates.!

Thanks
Math girl,
Will look into that...See if any vorn and possible died?
All the children I have have been taken from the census'.

kdp wrote:Thank guys, yes that is them..
though not in 1911 mathgirl
In 1891 they were living at 48 adams street, aston, birmingham.
Caroline died in 1901 in aston, obviously after the census was taken lol and joh died in 1907.
If they were in birmingham in 71 I cannot find them
thanks all x

My Grandmother Clara Fradley was born in 1888 at 54 Adams Street