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Hi all,

Any help or suggestions to burst through my brick wall will be gratefully received...

I am trying to find a James and Elizabeth Par(r)ish...I know very little of them, as i can find no paperwork pre 1841.

James Parish...
In 1841 he is living at Bromley In Kingswinford with his daughter Jane Jones and her family, dob is stated as 1766 and he is a Labourer. There is a y in the coloumn asking if born in county. He died in 1843 in Kingswinford aged 75 of old age and Elizabeth Parrish was present at the death and the informant.
His son Thomas married in 1840 in Dudley and James is stated as a Brickmaker. His daughter Ann married in 1844 and James is marked as deceased..

Elizabeth Parish...
In 1841 Elizabeth is living with 2 children and a lodger in Bromley, Kingswinford, her age is stated as 50, and it does appear to say widow tho this seems to be crossed out, and there is a n in the column asking if born in county.
In 1851 Elizabeth is visiting her son John (brickmaker) and family, in Presteigne Radnorshire, 68 year old Widow born Stonebridge Staffordshire.
In 1861 a 74 year old widowed Elizabeth born worcester, stourbridge is living with her daughter Ann (Gould) and family, Bromley Lane, Kingswinford.
Elizabeth dies in 1867 in Kingswinford aged 81 of Senile Certified Decay, she is stated as the widow of James Parrish, brickburner, deceased and the informanr ins Elizabeth Malpass (daughter)

I have been able to connect all the children together through having neices and or nephews living with them at some time.
Thomas (my ggg Grandfather) was born in 1818 in Brierly Hill.
Jane (jones) was born in 1809 I beleive in Shropshire.
Mary (cox) was born in 1811 in Shropshire.
Elizabeth (malpas) I beleive was born in 1817 place so far unknown.
Ann (Gould) was born in 1822 in Bridgnorth Shropshire
and John was born in 1827 in Bridgnorth Shropshire

Any information or research tips would be most welcome, I have been down all the obvious routes via comp and been through local parish records.

Thanks for looking

extracted

if this is thomas, Ann is mother ?


THOS PARISH
Christening: 11 OCT 1818 Brierley Hill, Stafford,
Father: JAMES PARISH
Mother: ANNE

submitted

Jane Parish
Christening: 12 MAR 1809 St George, , Shropshire,

Father: James Parish
Mother: Elizabeth Parish

both extracted


MARY PARISH

Birth: 08 MAY 1811
Christening: 19 MAY 1811 Shifnal, Shropshire,

Father: JAMES PARISH
Mother: ELIZ

and poss same one ?

MARY PARISH
Birth: 08 MAY 1811
Christening: 19 MAY 1811 Priors Lee, Shropshire,

Father: JAMES PARISH
Mother: ELIZTH

submitted ?



Ann Parish
Christening: 03 MAR 1822 St Leonards, Bridgnorth, Shropshire,

Father: James Parish
Mother: Elizabeth

look like john christend in Brierley Hill if this is him ?

extracted

JOHN PARRISH
Christening: 09 SEP 1827 Brierley Hill, Stafford, England

Father: JAMES PARRISH
Mother: ELIZH

two poss both extracted unless the thomas is the son of james and ann foster ?

JAMES PARISH
ELIZABETH WOODHALL
Marriage: 02 JAN 1807 All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford,



JAMES PARISH
ANN FOSTER
Marriage: 02 OCT 1808 Aston Juxta Birmingham, Warwick

the census that you have have you looked on the 2 previous images and post images to check for parishs ?

Hi Peter...
There appears, online to be 2 entries for thomas in brierley hill on same day in 1818. I have the parish record transcript and it states mother as Elizabeth..which is slightly confusing?
Yep you have found the same births as me

I have looked at the Elizabeth Woodhall one but it didnt sit right with me for some reason which i cant remember now lol will have another look and get back asap

Thank you peter

peterd wrote:the census that you have have you looked on the 2 previous images and post images to check for parishs ?

Sorry Peter, I dont quite understand what you mean lol

Kdp

any dudley or smethwick ones if we can help you with a look up
just ask

we have a list going in the look up requests section
need church year and entry no at end if from the Bmsgh site
or if other need day month year church

might help you

I remember why now peter,
this james and elizabeth, stayed in West Brom and had children there ie
Name: Thomas Parish
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 07 Nov 1815
Baptism/Christening Place: ALL SAINTS,WEST BROMWICH,STAFFORD,ENGLAND
:
Father's Name: James Parish
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Elizabeth

kdp wrote:

peterd wrote:the census that you have have you looked on the 2 previous images and post images to check for parishs ?

Sorry Peter, I dont quite understand what you mean lol

when you look at the census image look on the same page for any other parish and then use the arrows above to move it to the previos one or the next on and chech them for parish you might poss find family near them ?

extracted

if this is thomas, Ann is mother ?


THOS PARISH
Christening: 11 OCT 1818 Brierley Hill, Stafford,
Father: JAMES PARISH
Mother: ANNE

In the trans
11 Oct 1818 Thos, s of James & Elizh Parish, Brockmoor, Brick maker

9 Sept 1827 John, s of James & Elizh Parrish, Commonside, Bricklayer

This is a nightmare family! They seem to move around a lot, and also give various places of birth! This is how I am seeing it now, though far from certain!

1841


Bromley
Elizabeth Parrish 50 n
Ann ditto 15 n
John ditto 10 y

Kingswinford
Thomas Parrish 20 lab n
Anne ditto 25 n
Maria ditto 2 y
Mary 3m y

1851

Bromley, Kingswinford
Thomas Parish 30 boat loader Kingswinford
Mary ditto 34 Worcs Norton
Mary ditto dau 10 Kingswinford
Ann ditto dau 8 ditto
Elizabeth ditto 1 ditto
William Kilbery stepson 10 ditto
Caroline ditto 8 ditto
Sarah ditto 4 ditto

Lingen, Herefordshire
John Parish 24 brickmaker Staffs Commonside
Sarah ditto 24 Staffs Stourbridge
Maria ditto dau 1 Staffs Bromley
Elizabeth ditto mother wid 68 visitor Staffs Stourbridge

1861

Dudley Port, Tipton
John Parish 32 labourer in colliery Worcs, Dudley
Sarah ditto 32 Staffs Brockmoor
Maria ditto 12 ditto
Harriet ditto 8 ditto
James ditto 6 Staffs Bromley
Priscilla E ditto 4 ditto
Jacob ditto 11m Staffs Tipton

Tipton
Thomas Perry 43 Staffordshire, Brierley Hill
Mary 44 Worcestershire, Evesham
Sarah 16 Stourbridge, Bromley
Elizabeth 11 ditto
Jane 8 ditto
Thomas 6 ditto
James 4 ditto
Charles 1 Staffordshire, Tipton

1871

Sedgeley
John Parish 44 brickmaker Kingswinford Staffs
Sarah ditto 44 Oldswinford Worcs
James ditto 16 Lingen Herefordshire
Pricilla ditto 14 Shobdon Herefordshire
John ditto 5 Sedgeley Staffs
Mary ditto 2 Bham Warwickshire
Sarah ditto 3m ditto

Duddeston, Birminham
Thomas Parish 53 Head Lab Brierley Hill, Staffs
Mary Parish 53 Wife Norton nr Evesham, Worcester
James Parish 15 Son Heaver up in Chain? Ind Preston, Hereford
Charles Parish 12 Son Heaver up in Iron Ind Dudley Port, Staffs
Benjamin Parish 17 Son Heaver up in Iron Ind Brierley Hill, Staffs

1881

Birminham
Birmingham
John Parish 53 labourer Staffs Commonside
Sarah ditto 53 ditto
Jacob ditto 18 Staffs, West Coseley
John ditto 15 ditto
Mary ditto 13 Warwicks Bham
Sarah ditto 10 ditto

Duddeston, Birmingham
Duddeston
James Parrish head m 23 labourer Longden Herefordshire
Margaret ditto wife 26
James ditto son 6
Thomas ditto son 2
Elizabeth ditto dau 1
Mary ditto mother w 64 Kingsnorton Worcestershire


I can't explain why the 1861 is down as Perry but I think the bithpalces and ages match reasonably, though Thomas has morphed into Benjamin... I don't know