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*Arc tbc* ---Firkin

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:34 pm
by Rob
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =585393950

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =806056174

Were they brothers from Madely,Shropshire?
I'm trying to connect my gggrandfather Joseph Firkin to them.

Re: Firkin

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:39 pm
by mallosa
HEZECHIAH FIRKIN
Birth:
Christening: 05 JUN 1808 Saint Bartholomew, Wednesbury, Stafford
Father: JOSEPH FIRKIN
Mother: SARAH

Re: Firkin

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:41 pm
by mallosa
ZEPHANIAH FIRKIN
Birth:
Christening: 05 JUN 1808 Saint Bartholomew, Wednesbury, Stafford, England
Father: JOSEPH FIRKIN
Mother: SARAH

Re: Firkin

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:43 pm
by mallosa
CHALIM FIRKIN
Birth:
Christening: 08 SEP 1811 Saint Bartholomew, Wednesbury, Stafford
Father: JOSEPH FIRKIN
Mother: SARAH

Re: Firkin

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:16 pm
by Rob
Thanks Mally
They were all brothers then but which one was the father of Joseph Firkin born about 1831?
And where's the Madely connection?

Re: Firkin

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:04 am
by Jimmy
Joseph Firkin.
Baptism/Christening Date 23 Oct 1831.
Baptism/Christening Place ALL SAINTS,WEST BROMWICH,STAFFORD.
Father's Name Joseph Firkin.
Mother's Name Sarah.

Re: Firkin

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:51 am
by Jimmy
Joseph Firkin.
Baptism/Christening Date 18 Jan 1835.
Baptism/Christening Place Harborne, Stafford.
Death Date 11 Dec 1836.
Father's Name Hezekiah Firkin.
Mother's Name Mary.

Re: Firkin

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:46 pm
by Rob
Jimmy wrote:Joseph Firkin.
Baptism/Christening Date 23 Oct 1831.
Baptism/Christening Place ALL SAINTS,WEST BROMWICH,STAFFORD.
Father's Name Joseph Firkin.
Mother's Name Sarah.


On Ancestry there's Joseph Firkin 1756 and Sarah Gutteridge 1755
A pile of kids mentioned including Zephinia and Hezekial and youngest child born 1831 Joseph Firkin!!!
That would make Sarah 76 years old !!
Joseph at 75 would probably still be able to but Sarah was long past her child bearing days!!
I'll have to check Joseph Firkin - Eliza Roberts's marriage for the identity of father.

Re: Firkin

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:17 pm
by mallosa
Sorry if you already have this Rob...

1851: Stone Street, Oldbury, Worc
Joseph Firkin 20 Head Coalminer Wednesbury
Eliza Firkin 21 Wife Oldbury, Worc
Ann Roberts 5 Dau in Law (Step dau?) Oldbury, Worc

poss
1841: Upper Sqr? West Bromwich, Staffs

Hezikiah Firkins 30 Coalminer
Maria Firkins 30
Joseph Firkins 10
Hannah Firkins 9
Enock Firkins 4
Sarahund (Sarah Ann) Firkins 2
John Firkins 4 MO
(all born in County)

Re: Firkin

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:50 pm
by Rob
And in 1841 as you already know :wink:
1841 Stone Street,Oldbury
Zephinia Firkin head 30 Coal Miner
Sarah Firkin wife 30
Joseph Firkin son 10
Mary Firkin daug 7
Eliza Firkin daug 4
William Firkin son 18 months

So both Hezekiah and Zephinia had Joseph Firkin son aged 10.

Also Chalim Firkin is nowhere to be found on Ancestry!! Only Caleb Firkin!! The same fella?

Re: Firkin

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:34 pm
by peterd
mallosa wrote:ZEPHANIAH FIRKIN
Birth:
Christening: 05 JUN 1808 Saint Bartholomew, Wednesbury, Stafford, England
Father: JOSEPH FIRKIN
Mother: SARAH



1881: 13 Junction St, Oldbury, Worcester

Zephaniah FIRKIN Head M Male 72 West Bromwich, Stafford, England Coal Miner
Sarah FIRKIN Wife M Female 71 West Bromwich, Stafford, England


also at this address (poss kid or gran kid ?)


1881: 13 Junction St, Oldbury, Worcester

George MASON 26 Sutton Coldfield, Warwick, General Lab
Agnes MASON 24 Oldbury, Worcester,
William MASON 3 Oldbury, Worcester,
Sarah MASON 2 Oldbury, Worcester,
George MASON 3 m Oldbury, Worcester,


MASON George FIRKIN Agnes 1876 Rowley Regis, St Giles West Midlands Sandwell Register Office 18/5/198

Re: Firkin

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:46 pm
by peterd
Also Chalim Firkin is nowhere to be found on Ancestry!! Only Caleb Firkin!! The same fella?


poss extracted

CALEB FIRKIN
MARY BEVAN
Marriage: 28 NOV 1831 Tipton, Stafford


pedigree submitted

Caleb FIRKIN
Birth: abt 1811 West Bromwich, Staffordshire

Spouse: Mary BEVAN
Marriage: 28 Nov 1831 Tipton, Staffordshire


so about right age poss same one rob ?

Re: Firkin

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:16 am
by Northern Lass
mallosa wrote:HEZECHIAH FIRKIN
Birth:
Christening: 05 JUN 1808 Saint Bartholomew, Wednesbury, Stafford
Father: JOSEPH FIRKIN
Mother: SARAH


connected up bros

Re: Firkin

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:30 am
by Northern Lass
Rob wrote:
Jimmy wrote:Joseph Firkin.
Baptism/Christening Date 23 Oct 1831.
Baptism/Christening Place ALL SAINTS,WEST BROMWICH,STAFFORD.
Father's Name Joseph Firkin.
Mother's Name Sarah.


On Ancestry there's Joseph Firkin 1756 and Sarah Gutteridge 1755
A pile of kids mentioned including Zephinia and Hezekial and youngest child born 1831 Joseph Firkin!!!
That would make Sarah 76 years old !!
Joseph at 75 would probably still be able to but Sarah was long past her child bearing days!!
I'll have to check Joseph Firkin - Eliza Roberts's marriage for the identity of father.


it is odd
looks like Joseph is son of Joseph and Sarah on bapt
but
if this is marriage...
JOSEPH FERKIN
Spouse: SARAH GUTTRIDGE
Marriage: 03 JAN 1786 All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford,
Extracted


then she could have been born 1770 but even so aged 60 for Joseph aged 10 is as you say daft!
you need that marriage looked at

I think we need to amend that Joseph on BCC I will add a note and leave him with Zeph whilst proved

Re: Firkin

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:55 am
by Northern Lass
1871 Mott Street,Blackheath
Joseph Firkin head 39 Coal Miner b.Madely,Staffs
Eliza Firkin wife 40 b.Oldbury
Agnes Firkin daug 17 b.Oldbury
Harriet Firkin daug 12 Scholar b.Rowley Regis
Ellen Firkin daug 11 Scholar b.Rowley Regis
Sarah Firkin daug 9 Scholar b.Rowley Regis
Betsy Firkin daug 7 Scholar b.Rowley Regis
Rebecca Firkin daug 6 months b.Rowley Regis


1871 Pinfold Street,Oldbury,Worcestershire
Zephania Firkin head 62 Coal Miner b.West Bromwich
Sarah Firkin wife 50 b.West Bromwich
Zephania Firkin son 22 labouer
Sarah Firkin daug 20
Hannah Firkin daug 17
Agnes Firkin daug 14
Sarah Firkin daug in law 17 Brickmaker
Joseph Firkin grandson 5 months
all children born Oldbury


look at that name Agnes
looks to me like Joseph is son to Zephania

or maybe he just liked name
need that marriage