Genealogy Forum UK

does this family have a son Benjamin
bro to Mary

and is there a marriage for a Benjamin Shaw pre 1851 to a maria pls
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =731175863

(Extracted)
These all have Parents:
ABEL SHAW
ANN

SARAH SHAW Christening: 07 JUL 1789 Brierley Hill, Stafford
NOAH SHAW Christening: 16 AUG 1791 Park Lane Presbyterian, Cradley, Worcester
ANN SHAW Christening: 23 AUG 1795 Brierley Hill, Stafford
MARY SHAW Christening: 03 DEC 1797 Brierley Hill, Stafford
HANNAH SHAW Christening: 24 NOV 1799 Park Lane Presbyterian, Cradley, Worcester

can't find a Benjamin

Here's one...
(extracted)
BENJAMIN SHAW
Spouse: MARIA COLEY
Marriage: 20 APR 1835 Halesowen, Worcester

and...

BENJAMIN SHAW
Spouse: MARIA FRADGELEY
Marriage: 11 DEC 1836 Clent, Worcester

Incidentally, just while you're at it...:
England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940 about Noah Shaw
Name: Noah Shaw
Gender: Male
Father's Name: Abel Shaw
Spouse's name: Ann Maria Pearson
Spouse's Father's Name: Benjamin Pearson
Marriage Date: 4 Mar 1840
Marriage Place: Clent, Worcestershire, England

Maybe suggests that the Clent one is more likely???

Big collection of Shaws together - including Benjamin & Maria (Fradgely)

1861
At Thorns, Kingswinford
Entry 129
Joseph Shaw Head 44 Stone Miner b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Johannah Shaw Wife 42 b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Ann Shaw Daur 15 House Maid b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Joseph Shaw Son 13 Stone Miner b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Samuel Shaw Son 12 Scholar b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Elizabeth Shaw Daur 8 Scholar b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Thomas Shaw Son 6 Scholar b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Felix Shaw Son 3 b. Staffs., Kingswinford

Entry 133
Edward Hill Head 32 Spade Maker b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Naomi Hill Wife 32 b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Sarah Hill Daur 8 Scholar b. Staffs., Kingswinford
George Hill Son 6 Scholar b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Edward Hill Son 4 Scholar b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Phoebe Hill Daur 2 b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Daniel Hill Son 10mths b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Sarah Shaw Boarder W 73 b. Worcs., Dudley

Entry 134
Frederick Shaw Head 51 Coal Miner b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Ann Shaw Wife 42 b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Sarah Ann Shaw Daur 20 b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Elijah Shaw Son 15 Coal Miner b. Staffs., Kingswinford
William Shaw Son 13 Scholar b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Phoebe Shaw Daur 7 Scholar b. Staffs., Kingswinford

Entry 135
Benjamin Shaw Head 46 Coal Miner b. b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Maria Shaw Wife 47 b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Sarah Fradgley Serv. 15 General servant b. Staffs., Kingswinford

Entry 136
David Shaw Head 53 Carter b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Phoebe Shaw Wife 53 b. Worcs., Dudley
Hannah Ann Shaw Daur 14 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Kingswinford

1851
At Thorns, Kingswinford

Entry 18
Daniel Shaw Head 64 Nailor b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Sarah Shaw Wife 61 b. Worcs., Dudley
Phebe Shaw Daur 25 Nailor b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Naomi Shaw Daur 22 Nailor b. Staffs., Kingswinford
John Cardoe Grandson 20 Coal Miner b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Sarah Cardoe Granddaur 16 Nailor b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Elizabeth Cardoe Granddaur 11 Nailor b. Staffs., Kingswinford

Entry 19
Frederick Shaw Head 41 Iron Miner b. Worcs., Dudley
Ann Shaw Wife 36 b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Sarah Ann Shaw Daur 10 Scholar b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Elijah Shaw Son 5 Scholar b. Staffs., Kingswinford
William Shaw Son 3 b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Elizabeth Shaw Daur 1 b. Staffs., Kingswinford

Entry 20
David Shaw Head 43 Coal Miner b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Phebe Shaw Wife 42 Nailer b. Worcs., Cradley
Phebe Shaw Daur 16 Nailer b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Jane Shaw Daur 13 Nailer b. Staffs., Kingswinford
David Shaw Son 8 Nailer b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Annmaria Shaw Daur 4 b. Staffs., Kingswinford

Entry 21
Benjamin Shaw Head Widower 75 Nailer b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Benjamin Shaw Son 37 Coal Miner b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Maria Shaw Wife 37 b. Staffs., Kingswinford

Entry 22
Thomas Shaw Head Widower 76 Pauper Agricultural Labourer b. Staffs., Kingswinford

Entry 23
Joseph Shaw Head 36 Iron Miner b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Joanna Shaw Wife 36 b. Staffs., Kingswinford
William Shaw Son 14 Iron Miner b. Staffs., Kingswinford
David Shaw Son 11 Scholar b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Ann Shaw Daur 6 b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Joseph Shaw Son 4 b. Staffs., Kingswinford
Samuel Shaw Son 1 b. Staffs., Kingswinford

So this Benjamin, who married Maria Fradgely, has a father, Benjamin not Abel.

1841
At Thorns, Kingswinford
Benjn Shaw 65 Labr
Ann Shaw 70
David Shaw 30
Feby Shaw 25
Ann Shaw 12
Joseph Shaw 10
Phebe Shaw 6
Jane Shaw 4

All born in County

dianel wrote:Incidentally, just while you're at it...:
England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1940 about Noah Shaw
Name: Noah Shaw
Gender: Male
Father's Name: Abel Shaw
Spouse's name: Ann Maria Pearson
Spouse's Father's Name: Benjamin Pearson
Marriage Date: 4 Mar 1840
Marriage Place: Clent, Worcestershire, England

Maybe suggests that the Clent one is more likely???

Just to check do we have this pair on census pls
that is a late marriage want to check their ages

Not sure if Abel Shaw links to Benjamin Shaw as brothers?

IGI Extracted:
Results for: Shaw, British Isles
Father: George , Mother: Sarah
Batch Number: C053732

EPHRAIM SHAW - Christening: 10 MAY 1752 Kingswinford, Stafford, England
NOAH SHAW - Christening: 27 FEB 1759 Kingswinford, Stafford, England
GEO SHAW - Christening: 14 JUN 1761 Kingswinford, Stafford, England
ABEL SHAW - Christening: 11 DEC 1763 Kingswinford, Stafford, England
NOAH SHAW - Christening: 01 JUL 1770 Kingswinford, Stafford, England

Poss. Benjamin snr:
IGI Extracted:
BENJ SHAW
Christening: 20 SEP 1772 Kingswinford, Stafford, England
Father: BENJ SHAW
Mother: BRISCOE

I am not sure if anyone wants to add to BCC or run with anything
on this
I am done with it

so flagging to archive unless otherwise advised

Could you leave it for just a bit, NL? I might as well put the rest of the info re Benjamin Shaw and Maria Fradgley on.

OK, I think I've taken it as far as I can - eyes are ...

Here are Benjamin Shaw & Maria Fradgely et al:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =394650072

I'm happy for this to be archived now

Thanks Di