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ARC - Richard Hopkins...help pls

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 6:48 pm
by snoopysue
For Snoopy Sue
Look up please:

Richard Hopkins
Martha Medley
Marriage: 18 Jun 1804
Wolverhampton

Sorry don't know which church. I'm interested in the names of both fathers.
Thanks Sue

Wolverhampton Marriage

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 7:09 pm
by cid
FREE CEN has this - no fathers names though - too early

Wolverhampton
Church St Peters
RegisterNumber
Marriage Date 18 Jun 1804
GroomForename Richard
GroomSurname HOPKINS
GroomAge
GroomParish
GroomCondition Widower
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode
BrideForename Martha
BrideSurname MEDLEY
BrideAge
BrideParish
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode
GroomFatherForename
GroomFatherSurname
GroomFatherOccupation
BrideFatherForename
BrideFatherSurname
BrideFatherOccupation
WitnessOneForename John
WitnessOneSurname PICKERING
WitnessTwoForename Joseph
WitnessTwoSurname WAINWRIGHT
Notes Banns

Re: Wolverhampton marriage help pls

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:31 pm
by snoopysue
That's interesting that Richard was a widower, I didn't know that. Thanks.
The names of the witnesses don't mean anything - as yet.

Sue

Re: Wolverhampton marriage help pls

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:10 pm
by snoopysue
I've found a possible first wife for Richard, Sarah Unknown.
They had a daughter Ann christened in St Bartholemews in Wednesbury (same church as Richards other children) 1 Feb 1801. (on family search)
I can't find a marriage, or a death for Sarah.

I've also found possible parents for Richard:
Thomas Hopkins and Catharine, with a christening of Richard in 1779, which ties up with what I have, but as yet no definate proof. (again family search)

Any ideas where to look next?

Re: Wolverhampton marriage help pls

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:09 pm
by cid
Here snoops, this is interesting. Grooms name is Richard Hopkins TIBBITTS ??????

From FREE REG

The Joseph Wainright is a witness on most marriages, must be connected to the church

County Staffordshire
Place Wolverhampton
Church St Peters
RegisterNumber
MarriageDate 15 Oct 1800
GroomForename Richard Hopkins
GroomSurname TIBBITTS
GroomAge
GroomParish
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode
BrideForename Sarah
BrideSurname BLAKEMORE
BrideAge
BrideParish
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode
GroomFatherForename
GroomFatherSurname
GroomFatherOccupation
BrideFatherForename
BrideFatherSurname
BrideFatherOccupation
WitnessOneForename Elizabeth
WitnessOneSurname NICKELS
WitnessTwoForename Joseph
WitnessTwoSurname WAINWRIGHT
Notes Banns
FileNumber 15708

Re: Wolverhampton marriage help pls

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:15 pm
by cid
The plot thickens......

Free Reg Baptism

County Staffordshire
Place Wednesbury
Church St Bartholemews
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate * * 1807
Forename Hannah
Sex F
FatherForename Richard
MotherForename Martha
FatherSurname TIBBETS
MotherSurname HOPKINS
Abode
FatherOccupation
Notes
FileNumber 17863

Re: Wolverhampton marriage help pls

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:16 pm
by cid
County Staffordshire
Place Wednesbury
Church St Bartholemews
RegisterNumber
DateOfBirth
BaptismDate * * 1805
Forename Thomas
Sex M
FatherForename Richard
MotherForename Martha
FatherSurname HOPKINS
MotherSurname HOPKINS
Abode
FatherOccupation
Notes
FileNumber 17863

Re: Wolverhampton marriage help pls

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:29 pm
by cid
I can't see a death for Sarah Hopkins or Sarah Tibbetts either. Sorry. Off to bed now, long day tomoz.

Re: Wolverhampton marriage help pls

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:16 am
by snoopysue
cid wrote:Here snoops, this is interesting. Grooms name is Richard Hopkins TIBBITTS ??????

From FREE REG

The Joseph Wainright is a witness on most marriages, must be connected to the church

County Staffordshire
Place Wolverhampton
Church St Peters
RegisterNumber
MarriageDate 15 Oct 1800
GroomForename Richard Hopkins
GroomSurname TIBBITTS
GroomAge
GroomParish
GroomCondition Bachelor
GroomOccupation
GroomAbode
BrideForename Sarah
BrideSurname BLAKEMORE
BrideAge
BrideParish
BrideCondition Spinster
BrideOccupation
BrideAbode
GroomFatherForename
GroomFatherSurname
GroomFatherOccupation
BrideFatherForename
BrideFatherSurname
BrideFatherOccupation
WitnessOneForename Elizabeth
WitnessOneSurname NICKELS
WitnessTwoForename Joseph
WitnessTwoSurname WAINWRIGHT
Notes Banns
FileNumber 15708



That's got to be him - I've got a christening to one of his and Martha's children where he is Richard Tibbits Hopkins! It's only on the one record though - they were all christened in wednesbury (including Richard's and Sarah's daughter Ann in 1801 - that's where I got Sarah's name from).
Thanks Cid :grin:

Re: Wolverhampton marriage help pls

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:37 am
by Northern Lass
Is this now Completed?
flagging to archive

Re: Wolverhampton marriage help pls

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:58 pm
by snoopysue
Northern Lass wrote:Is this now Completed?
flagging to archive


Still haven't got proof of Richards parents.

Sue

Re: *Arc tbc* ---Wolverhampton marriage help pls

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:02 pm
by Northern Lass
You won't get parents so early

so will move this Snoops to brickwalls

is there a bapt for him?
could do with changing title too

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:15 pm
by snoopysue
Northern Lass wrote:You won't get parents so early

so will move this Snoops to brickwalls

is there a bapt for him?
could do with changing title too


I've found a christening for a Richard Hopkins 18 Nov 1779 at St Bartholemews, Wednesbury. Father Thomas Hopkins; mother Catherine. Ties up with 1841 and 1851 census as far as place of birth, both census returnes have him as being born in 1776.
But I have no way of knowing whether these are the correct parents.

Re: Richard Hopkins...help pls

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 4:04 pm
by BC Wench
Is this still a Brickwall, or have you solved it?

Unless otherwise advised this will be moved to the Brickwalls Archived section
within 24 hours

Re: ARC TBC - Richard Hopkins...help pls

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 4:49 pm
by snoopysue
That's okay