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Rocky Fowler did me a look up Thanks Rock.
Caroline Hadley - Thomas Smith 1844 West Bromwich Christ Church.
Thomas Smith Nailer Long Lane father Samuel Smith
Caroline Hadley Long Lane father Chas Hadley Nailer
witnesses David Stokes and Sylvia Stokes

Now look at this on BCC
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =858857660

I'm 99.9% sure it's the same one and Caroline Hadley is this one
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =693036124
On BCC Sylvia Smith married David Foulkes is this the same couple who were witnesses at the wedding?

1851 Long Lane Cakemore
Samuel Smith head widower 55 nail forger born Halesowen
Ann Smith daug 18 born Rowley Regis
Samuel Smith son 17 nail forger born Rowley Regis
James Smith son 11 scholar born Rowley Regis
Thomas Smith son/lodger widower 30 nail forger born Halesowen

1871 Blackheath
Thomas Smith head 50 Nailer born Halesowen
Hannah Smith wife 63
Joseph Smith son 23 general lab
Elizabeth Smith daug 19
All born Rowley Regis

Did Caroline Hadley die in childbirth? Death Caroline Smith 1851 Dudley DUD/024/348
Giving birth to Elizabeth Smith ? Births Elizabeth Smith Rowly Regis 1851 RR/15/119
or Elizabeth Smith 1851 RR/15/425

What do the experts think?

Rob wrote:
Did Caroline Hadley die in childbirth? Death Caroline Smith 1851 Dudley DUD/024/348
Giving birth to Elizabeth Smith ? Births Elizabeth Smith Rowly Regis 1851 RR/15/119
or Elizabeth Smith 1851 RR/15/425

What do the experts think?

Deaths Jun 1851.
Smith Caroline. Dudley. 18. 214.

Rob wrote:
1871 Blackheath
Thomas Smith head 50 Nailer born Halesowen.
Hannah Smith wife 63.
Joseph Smith son 23 general lab.
Elizabeth Smith daug 19.
All born Rowley Regis.

If Joseph is Thomas's son were was he in 1851.

there is also this Thomas, Joseph and Elizabeth

1851. Black Heath.
Thos Smith 57. Nail and rivet manufacture.Rowly.
Hannah Smith 42. Halesowen.
Joseph Smith 4. Rowly.
Elizabeth Smith 1 MO. Rowly.
Maryann Row 15. Servant.

1861. Black Heath.
Thomas Smith 46. Rivet maker. Halesowen.
Hannah Smith 49. Halesowen.
Joseph Smith 14. Rowley Regis.
Elizabeth Smith 10. Rowley Regis.
Mary Bastable 13. Servant. Halesowen.

Also full details for 1871 census.
1871. Black Heath.
Thomas Smith 50. Nail and Rivet maker and Grocer, Halesowen.
Hannah Smith 63. Rowley Regis.
Joseph Smith 23. Rowley Regis.
Elizabeth Smith 19. Rowley Regis.

Jimmy wrote:

Rob wrote:
Did Caroline Hadley die in childbirth? Death Caroline Smith 1851 Dudley DUD/024/348
Giving birth to Elizabeth Smith ? Births Elizabeth Smith Rowly Regis 1851 RR/15/119
or Elizabeth Smith 1851 RR/15/425

What do the experts think?

Deaths Jun 1851.
Smith Caroline. Dudley. 18. 214.

Caroline Smith.
Burial Date. 18 Apr 1851.
Burial Place. Dudley, County Of Worcester.
Age 1.
Birth Date. 1850.
Birthplace

Joseph Henry Smith.
Baptism/Christening Date 15 Apr 1847.
Baptism/Christening Place Rowley Regis, Stafford.
Father's Name. Thomas Smith.
Mother's Name. Hannah Smith.

Elizabeth Smith.
Baptism/Christening Date. 13 Apr 1851.
Baptism/Christening Place. Rowley-Regis, Stafford.
Father's Name. Thomas Smith.
Mother's Name. Hannah Smith.

Susanna Smith.
Baptism/Christening Date. 24 Sep 1848.
Baptism/Christening Place Rowley-Regis, Stafford.
Father's Name. Thomas Smith.
Mother's Name. Caroline Smith.

Thanks Jimbo !!
So that's not the same Thomas Smith in the 1871 census but can i assume that Thomas Smith who married Caroline Hadley is the one on BCC who's father and mother are Charles Hadley and Hannah Woodhouse?
Actually on Ancestry our DI has connections to Thomas Smith and his father and mother Samual Smith and Julianna Plant.

Yes, I think you are right on that Rob.

Do you need help connecting Rob?

This looks right for Carolines Burial Reg.
Caroline Smith.
Burial Date. 18 Jun 1849.
Burial Place. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
Age 24.
Birth Date 1825.

Northern Lass wrote:Do you need help connecting Rob?

Does it connect Your Highness?

Connected up and added in marriage

will verify burial in book and add it

so nice one Rob well spotted

Jimmy wrote:Susanna Smith.
Baptism/Christening Date. 24 Sep 1848.
Baptism/Christening Place Rowley-Regis, Stafford.
Father's Name. Thomas Smith.
Mother's Name. Caroline Smith.

checks out
will add later BCC running slow on usual Sunday at 10am till bout 12noon ish

Susanna of Thomas and Caroline Smith Blackheath nailer

so did she die?

Not on here
1851 Long Lane Cakemore
Samuel Smith head widower 55 nail forger born Halesowen
Ann Smith daug 18 born Rowley Regis
Samuel Smith son 17 nail forger born Rowley Regis
James Smith son 11 scholar born Rowley Regis
Thomas Smith son/lodger widower 30 nail forger born Halesowen

Jimmy wrote:This looks right for Carolines Burial Reg.
Caroline Smith.
Burial Date. 18 Jun 1849.
Burial Place. Rowley Regis, Staffordshire.
Age 24.
Birth Date 1825.

this checks out too

Caroline Smith Blackheath 24 consumption