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*Arc tbc* ---Ann Cartwright

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:52 am
by Northern Lass
I have done a look up for Adrian

we have her on BCC
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =946934251

but I am not sure that the James she marries is this one

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

can we just find James Batty and Ann on the 1901 or 1911 pls

and where is bufferey lane?

Re: Ann Cartwright

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 1:34 pm
by Jimmy
I can't see them in 1901, but I wonder if this George Bate is James's son.
1891. 8 Tibbetts Garden.
Neri Green 58.
Ann Green 56.
George Bate 20. Lodger.Chainmaker.

1881 Halesowen Rd 128 Rowley Regis, Stafford.
James BATTY 48 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Coal Miner.
Hannah BATTY 52 Wednesbury, Stafford,
Mary Ann BATTY 21 Rowley Regis, Stafford, General Serv.
Thomas BATTY 18 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Gas Pipe Screwer.
Samuel BATTY 16 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Striker For Blacksmith.
James BATTY 14 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Warehouse Boy.
George H. BATTY 10 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar.

Re: Ann Cartwright

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 2:33 pm
by Northern Lass
Thanks Jimmy

Adrian has some more info I think .....

Re: Ann Cartwright

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 5:21 pm
by apowell
Hi everyone,

Yes I have somemore information :P

I've found James & his wife on the 1891 census
Hugglescote and Donington
Ecclesiastical parish: Hugglescote
White Hill
Leicestershire
Registration district: Ashby De La Zouch
John Brooks 35
Jane Brooks 34
Thomas Brooks 9
Annie Brooks 7
Arthur Brooks 6
Walter Brooks 5
John W Brooks 8/12
James Batty 58
Hannah Batty 60

I then found a death entry:
Name: Hannah Batty
Estimated birth year: abt 1828
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 64
District: Ashby de la Zouch
County: Derbyshire, Leicestershire

This matched James's wife and tied in with him re-marrying in Dudley that was confirmed by Northern lass:
15 April 1894 St Thomas Dudley
James Batty 55 widower miner Bufferey lane John Batty dead contractor
Ann Green 57 widow Bufferey lane Thomas Cartwright dead miner
banns
X both
Wit- W? Faulks? / ??? Maitland

I've been unable to find James on the 1901 census

I've found him on the 1911:
61 Terrace St, Blackheath, Staffordshire
BENNETT, Levi Head Married M 65 1846 Farm Labourer Warickeshire Wempston
BENNETT, Rosilinda Wife Married F 68 1843 Staffordshire Rowley Regis
BATTY, James Boarder Married M 76 1835 A Coal Miner Underground Staffordshire Rowley Regis

He died in 1920 and according to the above he's still married but no idea where Ann is?

I'm looking for Ann Green nee Cartwright on the census returns and will be back shortly :grin:

I would've been in contact sooner but the wifes got me painting all afternoon :roll:

Regards
Adrian

Re: Ann Cartwright

Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 5:33 pm
by apowell
Hi,

What about this for our Ann Green:

1881 census
Stag & Horseshoes (pub)
Long Lane, The Hill, Worcestershire
1881 census
Ann Green 50 Widow, Hill, Halesowen
Mary A. Cooper 23
Emiley Green 18
Henry Cooper 24
William G. Hollies 9
William J. Cooper 1

1891 census
Stag & Horseshoes (pub)
Bu? La? The Hill, Worcestershire
Ann Green 60
Emily Green 28
William G Hollies 19
Cooper Ernest 8

I can't make out the full name but it could be bufferey lane?

What do you think?

Adrian

Re: Ann Cartwright

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 8:27 am
by Northern Lass
Jimmy wrote:I can't see them in 1901, but I wonder if this George Bate is James's son.
1891. 8 Tibbetts Garden.
Neri Green 58.
Ann Green 56.
George Bate 20. Lodger.Chainmaker.

1881 Halesowen Rd 128 Rowley Regis, Stafford.
James BATTY 48 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Coal Miner.
Hannah BATTY 52 Wednesbury, Stafford,
Mary Ann BATTY 21 Rowley Regis, Stafford, General Serv.
Thomas BATTY 18 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Gas Pipe Screwer.
Samuel BATTY 16 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Striker For Blacksmith.
James BATTY 14 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Warehouse Boy.
George H. BATTY 10 Rowley Regis, Stafford, Scholar.

Re: Ann Cartwright

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 8:33 am
by Northern Lass
Not sure on Ann Cartwrights age

if that is her on census in 1881 and 1891 she is born about 1831
the one with father Thomas is coming out born 1838
so might not be that Thomas Cartwright

think I will just add a note on that entry

Re: Ann Cartwright

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 8:38 am
by Northern Lass
I have dropped that marriage in for James
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =557083264

I think if we can work out how that Neri Green links to Thomas Green
if that is who she married then it would look ok?

Re: Ann Cartwright

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 8:45 am
by Northern Lass
This looks like Birmingham Road to me


1891 census
Stag & Horseshoes (pub)
Bu? La? The Hill, Worcestershire
Ann Green 60
Emily Green 28
William G Hollies 19
Cooper Ernest 8

Re: Ann Cartwright

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 8:50 am
by Northern Lass
It doesnt look right

If this is him in 1911

1911:
61 Terrace St, Blackheath, Staffordshire
BENNETT, Levi Head Married M 65 1846 Farm Labourer Warickeshire Wempston
BENNETT, Rosilinda Wife Married F 68 1843 Staffordshire Rowley Regis
BATTY, James Boarder Married M 76 1835 A Coal Miner Underground Staffordshire Rowley Regis

this marriage isnt right

15 April 1894 St Thomas Dudley
James Batty 55 widower miner Bufferey lane John Batty dead contractor
Ann Green 57 widow Bufferey lane Thomas Cartwright dead miner
banns
X both
Wit- W? Faulks? / ??? Maitland

I better delete Ann until sure

Re: Ann Cartwright

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:06 am
by apowell
Hi,

Northern Lass wrote:It doesnt look right

this marriage isnt right

15 April 1894 St Thomas Dudley
James Batty 55 widower miner Bufferey lane John Batty dead contractor
Ann Green 57 widow Bufferey lane Thomas Cartwright dead miner
banns
X both
Wit- W? Faulks? / ??? Maitland

I better delete Ann until sure


I agree this can't be right and I really thought we were getting somewhere but I'm at a complete loss.

I think we've looked at all the bap/marriage entries that could've helped so I don't think we've anywhere else to look at the moment.

Many thanks for checking those look-ups.

Kind regards
Adrian

Re: Ann Cartwright

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:31 am
by Northern Lass
Ok Adrian thanks :wink:

Flagging now to archive