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Hi all, looking for information on my great great grandfather, Andrew Walsh. Unfortunately, there is little to go on but I thought I'd give it a shot anyway. He was from Midleton, Co. Cork, Ireland. I know he was a soldier as it states this as his occupation on his son's marriage certificate in 1925. He had two children, Mary Josephine and Andrew b. 1890. There is a strong possibility that he served in India and may have married an Indian woman. Unfortunately, there is no sign of him or his family in either the 1901 or 1911 census so I cant find out. Anyone who knew information about him is dead so I decided to turn here. As I said, there is little to go on but it's worth a shot. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!!!

Do you have a DoB for Andrew Walsh?
Where were his children born?

Where is he on other census?Any info on sons marriage?

I can find ten service records for Andrew Walsh but none come from Cork.

rockyfowler wrote:Where is he on other census?Any info on sons marriage?

Here is all the information on his son's marriage certificate:

Date: 21st February 1925.
Groom: Andrew Walsh.
Bride: Julia Mahony.
Church: Church of Midleton, Midleton, Co. Cork, Ireland.
Groom's occupation: Labourer.
Groom's residence at time of marriage: Ahaurok?, Midleton.
Bride's residence: Midleton.
Groom's father: Andrew Walsh (Soldier).
Bride's father: Denis Mahony (Labourer).
Witnesses: James Condon and Mary Josephine Bray (Groom's sister).
Marriage performed by: Denis O'Connor P.P.

I have no date of birth for Andrew Walsh Snr. or Jnr. and I have no idea where Andrew Walsh Jnr. and his sister were born. As I said, I have very little to go on due to the fact that anyone who had information is dead.

1925 was after the partition of Ireland, with Northern Ireland (Antrim, Armagh, Down, Tyrone, Derry, Fermanagh) being ruled at Stormont and the remaining 26 counties (including Co. Cork) being ruled as part of the Irish Free State (later Republic of Ireland) from Dublin.

Chances are, considering the marriage was performed in Cork, he was a Soldier with the Irish Army. The Irish Defence Forces were formed in 1924.

Unfortunately, Irish military records are secret, and getting access to them is very difficult.

Found a possible match for Andrew WALSH Jr.

In 1911 he was a farm servant in Midleton Rural, Cork. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/r ... 001999526/

What about records from before 1924? And I have searched for the births of Andrew Walsh Jnr. and Mary Josephine and there is no record of them anywhere in the parish records or the official records.

rootsfinder wrote:What about records from before 1924? And I have searched for the births of Andrew Walsh Jnr. and Mary Josephine and there is no record of them anywhere in the parish records or the official records.

All records which are relevant to Ireland are kept in Dublin with the exception of those for the 6 counties which are kept by the GRO in Belfast, however, the 1861, 1871, 1881 and 1891 census were destroyed by order of government during WWI.

To search the Irish BMDs you need to visit the GRO in Dublin, and there is a cost involved in searching aswell. More information is on their site http://www.groireland.ie/

There are parish records available online, http://www.rootsireland.ie/ is a place where you could start. I'm not 100 percent sure, but there are some Irish records on Ancestry, so if you've got the premium membership you could try there.

You could try and get hold of a birth certificate for Andrew Walsh Jr. The GRO in Dublin would need a name, and the year. Which you have. Also, you've got the Fathers name. If you did manage to get hold of a birth certificate, that would be able to tell you date and place of birth, child's forename/s, fathers name, address and occupation, mothers name and maiden surname, name and address of person who registered the birth.

rootsfinder wrote:

rockyfowler wrote:Where is he on other census?Any info on sons marriage?

Here is all the information on his son's marriage certificate:

Date: 21st February 1925.
Groom: Andrew Walsh.
Bride: Julia Mahony.
Church: Church of Midleton, Midleton, Co. Cork, Ireland.
Groom's occupation: Labourer.
Groom's residence at time of marriage: Ahaurok?, Midleton.
Bride's residence: Midleton.
Groom's father: Andrew Walsh (Soldier).
Bride's father: Denis Mahony (Labourer).
Witnesses: James Condon and Mary Josephine Bray (Groom's sister).
Marriage performed by: Denis O'Connor P.P.

I have no date of birth for Andrew Walsh Snr. or Jnr. and I have no idea where Andrew Walsh Jnr. and his sister were born. As I said, I have very little to go on due to the fact that anyone who had information is dead.

Could the Groom's residence be Aghada?

Sorry to be making so many posts in a row, however I have found something of interest for you. Well, it might be of interest anyway.

Julia MAHONY b. 27 Jun 1876 Cork, Ireland
Father: Denis Mahony
Father's Birthplace: Toom
Mother: Margaret Neill

Andrew WALSH b. 3 Apr 1877 Midleton, Cork, Ireland
Father: Andrew Walsh
Mother: Norry Casey

I can't tell whether that Andrew Walsh is Jr or Sr I'm afraid though, however based on what is below, I'd be more inclined to say that is Andrew Jr.

Mary WALSH b. 12 Apr 1873 Midleton, Cork, Ireland
Father: Andrew Walsh
Mother: Norry Casey

Also, there is a marriage in 1870, in Midleton that involves Andrew Walsh. I can't see who he married though.

brickwalls wrote:Sorry to be making so many posts in a row, however I have found something of interest for you. Well, it might be of interest anyway.

Julia MAHONY b. 27 Jun 1876 Cork, Ireland
Father: Denis Mahony
Father's Birthplace: Toom
Mother: Margaret Neill

Andrew WALSH b. 3 Apr 1877 Midleton, Cork, Ireland
Father: Andrew Walsh
Mother: Norry Casey

I can't tell whether that Andrew Walsh is Jr or Sr I'm afraid though, however based on what is below, I'd be more inclined to say that is Andrew Jr.

Mary WALSH b. 12 Apr 1873 Midleton, Cork, Ireland
Father: Andrew Walsh
Mother: Norry Casey

Also, there is a marriage in 1870, in Midleton that involves Andrew Walsh. I can't see who he married though.

Thats not the right Julia Mahony, I have her birth certificate. And that can't be either Andrew Walsh Snr. or Jnr. because Andrew Jnr was born in 1890 which would mean that Andrew would only have been 13 at the time.

Did Andrew have another sister called Elizabeth?

If so, I may have found them in the 1911 census living in Carlow. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/p ... et/309088/

Again in 1901 (without Elizabeth) http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/p ... t/1038792/

Granted, those dates would put Andrews birth at being around 1889/1888 so it might not be them.

No he didnt have a sister called Elizabeth, it was only him and Mary Josephine.