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Hi, I am new to this forum so not so sure how to go about getting around it yet. So here goes......
My grandmother was Mary Layton(1888) born in Haley Green Halesowen, she was the last of the Halesowen line (except for Aunt Edith)in our branch. I am trying to get information about her life in Halesowen. She had a brother who was the undermanager of a "steelworks" in the area. At present it is this that i am focusing on. She had 4 brothers that i can find. Thomas (1893), then William, Arthur and George. She also had 3 sisters, Annie, Elsie and Lily. I think it possibly would have been Tom as the others were too young, and Arthur was killed in Flanders. I would love to find out what steelworks and get information about it. Any information about any Laytons would be appreciated
Hope someone can help.

Hi Carole

I have moved this to the Black Country Genealogy section

carolejcompton wrote:Hi, I am new to this forum so not so sure how to go about getting around it yet. So here goes......
My grandmother was Mary Layton(1888) born in Haley Green Halesowen, she was the last of the Halesowen line (except for Aunt Edith)in our branch. I am trying to get information about her life in Halesowen. She had a brother who was the undermanager of a "steelworks" in the area. At present it is this that i am focusing on. She had 4 brothers that i can find. Thomas (1893), then William, Arthur and George. She also had 3 sisters, Annie, Elsie and Lily. I think it possibly would have been Tom as the others were too young, and Arthur was killed in Flanders. I would love to find out what steelworks and get information about it. Any information about any Laytons would be appreciated
Hope someone can help.

here is Mary on BCC
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

and sibs
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =184952256

so one of the brothers worked in a Steelworks
so which Steelworks you want to know..

do you have any of the sibs marriages?

Yes, i remember my grandmother telling me her brother was an undermanager in "the steelworks". As a child i assumed there was only one steelworks (i live in Australia).

Siblings were Thomas Layton
1893
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Stourbridge
County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands, Worcestershire

He married Lily Field in 1915 again Stourbridge County etc as above.
They had 2 children that i am aware of Alice Lilian born 1915
And Thomas born 1920

Arthur was born 1896, and died in Flanders 1916. Never married that i am aware.

William born 1898 Wife Winnie, unsure of any other details.

George born 1907 married Beatrice Wright in 1928.

I assume Tom was the brother that was at the steelworks, because of his age. My grandmother mentioned him dearly.
Mind i would love any information on any of them, but i want to find out what steelworks too. My grandfather also worked at the steelworks and that is how my grandmother met him.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Carole

Is this the same Mary Layton we done for Aussie Raymond.

*Arch pend more info* -HACKET/LAYTON relatives - By Raymond


viewtopic.php?f=31&t=1229&hilit=layton

1901
51
Hagley Road, Hasbury
Thomas Layton 34 - Labourer at Colliery (below)
Bertha Layton 34 - (hard to read) Cartes or Castes coal draves?
Mary Layton 13
Annie Layton 10
Thomas Layton 7
Arthur Layton 4
William Layton 2
all b Halesowen

1911 8 Children all alive
LAYTON, Thomas Head Married M 44 1867 Colliery Boat Loader Halesowen Worcestershire
LAYTON, Bertha Wife Married
24 years F 44 1867 Halesowen Worcestershire
LAYTON, Annie Daughter Single F 21 1890 Iron Spike Maker Halesowen Worcestershire
LAYTON, Thomas Son Single M 18 1893 Farm Labourer Servant Halesowen Worcestershire
LAYTON, Arthur Son M 14 1897 Farm Labourer Servant Halesowen Worcestershire
LAYTON, William Son M 12 1899 School Halesowen Worcestershire
LAYTON, Elsie Daughter F 9 1902 Halesowen Worcestershire
LAYTON, Lilly Daughter F 6 1905 Halesowen Worcestershire
LAYTON, George Son M 4 1907 Halesowen Worcestershire
WILLETS, Elizabeth Grandmother Widow F 85 1826 Old Age Pensioned Halesowen Worcestershire
Short Cross Farm Stourbridge Road Halesowen

Jimmy wrote:Is this the same Mary Layton we done for Aussie Raymond.

*Arch pend more info* -HACKET/LAYTON relatives - By Raymond


viewtopic.php?f=31&t=1229&hilit=layton

Yes Carole relates to Raymond


So do we have this 2nd marriage for Mary Layton now Hackett
and a death for Sidney?

Mary married Frank Nathaniel Wiggins?

so are they on the 1911
does it maybe say where he works?

I don't like to put a damper on Carol's quest, but there were literally dozens of Steel Works in and around Halesowen. At a guess I would think it could have been Stewarts and Lloyds up Combs Hill, where my Grandfather worked, sadly it is no longer there. I would imagine that Dudley Archives have a lot of documentation on S&L though, thousands of people must have worked there over the years. HTH from Linell.

1911
EDMONDS, William Head Married M 37 1874 Tube Straightener Worcs Halesowen
EDMONDS, Alice Marianne Wife Married
13 years F 32 1879 Worcs Halesowen
EDMONDS, William Albert Son M 11 1900 School Worcs Halesowen
EDMONDS, Nellie May Daughter F 7 1904 School Worcs Halesowen
WIGGIN, Frank Nathaniel Boarder Single M 27 1884 Warehouse Foreman And Storekeeper Chicago U S a Resident

27 Bromsgrove Street Halesowen

There was also the Tube Works owned by Frank and or Seth Somers at the bottom of Mucklows Hill, that was near Bromsgrove Street, near the Shenstone Pub and Roundabout. Linell.

Hey wow, How quick do you guys go.
I didn't think i'd have any answers for days.
Yes it is the same Laytons as Raymond Horsey was/is researching.
Due to all this already being done i am concentrating on their lives.
The story as i know it from my mum was Mary Layton Hackett had already separated from Sidney.
She had gone home to parents with daughter Edith.
Marys brother brought Frank home for occasional meals as he was a foreigner and on his own.
They fell in love (and pregnant)
Ran away to Australia in 1915... they later married in Canada in 1924.
My mum was born in Australia Jan 1916.
Thanks heaps again
Carole

Why can't our records be as detailed as this.

Marriage place, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada.
Groom. Frank Nathaniel Wiggin.
Groom birth place. Chicago, United States.
Marital status. Bachelor.
Father of groom. Charles Henry Victor Wiggin.
Mother of groom Rosa Kunsman.
Bride. Mary Layton Hackett.
Bride birth place. England.
Bride marital status. Widowed.
Father of bride. Thomas Layton.
Mother of bride. Bertha Neal.
Certificate type. License.
marriage: 24 Dec 1924, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada.

Just a little information regarding the Layton's. During my working time at Walter Somers from 1958 to 1992 there where quite a few of the employee's named Layton and Edmunds.
jbradley42991

Jimmy wrote:Why can't our records be as detailed as this.

Marriage place, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada.
Groom. Frank Nathaniel Wiggin.
Groom birth place. Chicago, United States.
Marital status. Bachelor.
Father of groom. Charles Henry Victor Wiggin.
Mother of groom Rosa Kunsman.
Bride. Mary Layton Hackett.
Bride birth place. England.
Bride marital status. Widowed.
Father of bride. Thomas Layton.
Mother of bride. Bertha Neal.
Certificate type. License.
marriage: 24 Dec 1924, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada.

this is great
where was that info from Jimmy I can add source