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Found an old hymn book belonging to Edward Blakeway (1866) where a previous owner : PHAROAH WHITTALL is written at Meadow Street, Old Hill. Can't find a link to the Blakeway family or a definitive Pharoah Whittall. Anyone got any info on this young / old man at the address?? Mention in back of book of readings and sermon from 17th Oct 1915 but don't know who wrote that - suspect Edward as writing stronger and similar.
Any link found would be appreciated!

Here's Edward Blakeway - ...here

Poss this one - Meadow Street is less than a mile from Wrights Lane

1901
Wrights Lane, Rowley
William Whittall 54 - Furnaceman (Gas Tube)
Mary A Whittall 56
Gertrude Whittall 20 - Enamaler Jap
Pharoah Whittall 16 - File trace Pudd
Nellie Whittall 14 - Bootbinder
Polly Whittall 11
all b Old hill

1911 (don't have any credits)
HOUSEHOLD WHITALL PHAROAH M 1885 26 Dudley Staffordshire living Meadow Street

1911 Census 10 Meadow Road
William Whitall Head 63 Lab. In Tube Works
Mary Ann Whitall wife 66
Pharoah Whitall son 26 Lab. in Tube Works
Ellen Whitall dau 24 Machinist in Boot Factory
Mary Ann Whitall dau 21 Machinist in Boot Factory
All born Old Hill Staffs.
Married 44 years , 9 children, 6 living

1911 Census Dudley Road Springfield Dudley Staffs.
Pharoah Whitall Head 36 Ash Wheeler from Puddling Furnace
Wlizabeth Whitall wife Iron Nail Maker
George Henry Whithall son 13 Coke Wheeler
Millicent Emily Whitall dau 6
14 years married, 2 children
All born Rowley Regis

seems the 10 meadow street pharoah is the right one as that is the address in the hymn book. is the mum Mary ann the same on as in the 1881 census - also mother to 3 steward kids- Rebecca (1865) John (1867) Joseph (1870) - there is a Mary Ann Steward / rhodes marrying a William Whittall in 1872, but no info on who she was before she became a Steward. There is a 64 year old lodger called John Hope there in 1881- can't find a Mary Hope or a Mary Rhodes marrying into Steward family or any more on the kids paternal parentage.
Anyone got any other links??
Thanks

1881 Eve Hill 8 Badger Square, Dudley, Worcester

William WHITAL 35 Rowley, Stafford, Rivit Maker
Mary WHITAL 34 Rowley, Stafford, Rivit Maker Wife
Rebecca STEWARD Daur Step 16 Rowley, , Nail Maker
John STEWARD Son Step 14 Rowley, Stafford, Scholar
Joseph STEWARD Son Step 11 Rowley, Stafford, Scholar
Mary Ann WHITAL Daur 4 Dudley, Worcester,
John HOPE Lodger W 64 Rowley, Stafford, Nail Maker


STEWARD Mary WHITTALL William T 1872 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/030/70

found that online but who was she before she became steward?? who was the father of the 1st 3 kids?? can't find that anywhere - also, what is the link between this family and Edward Blakeway? How does Edward come to have Pharoah's hymn book??? surely these things were only shared / handed on etc to family members??

peterd wrote:1881 Eve Hill 8 Badger Square, Dudley, Worcester

William WHITAL 35 Rowley, Stafford, Rivit Maker
Mary WHITAL 34 Rowley, Stafford, Rivit Maker Wife
Rebecca STEWARD Daur Step 16 Rowley, , Nail Maker
John STEWARD Son Step 14 Rowley, Stafford, Scholar
Joseph STEWARD Son Step 11 Rowley, Stafford, Scholar
Mary Ann WHITAL Daur 4 Dudley, Worcester,
John HOPE Lodger W 64 Rowley, Stafford, Nail Maker


STEWARD Mary WHITTALL William T 1872 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/030/70

1871
Blackheath, Rowley
John Rose 56 - Nailmaker
Ann Rose 64 - Nailmaker
Mary Steward 25 - daug - widow - Nailmaker
Rebecca Steward 6 - grandaug
John Steward 4 - grandson
Joseph Steward 1 - grandson
all b Rowley

1861
Blackheath. Rowley
John Rose 43 - Nailmaker - unm
Ann Perry 50 - Boarder - Nailmaker - unm
Mary Perry 14 - Nailmaker
Elizabeth Priest 38 - Lodger - unm - Nailmaker
Jemima Priest 11
all b Rowley

Poss marriage
1865
PERRY Mary STEWART Edward Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/003/215

Don't see a marriage for a John Rose & Ann Perry..

1851
Boston, Rowley
John Rose 34 - unm - Nailer
Ann Perry 42 - Inmate - unm - Nailer
John Perry 22 - son - unm - Nailer
Mary Perry 4 - daug
all b Rowley

Not sure where we are up to with this

Puds any help....any of it?

are you in contact us with the BCC tree? or have you been
send me a pm if you have or are

can any of this be added guys?

going to sticky this one too

if we can add it and anyone fancies doing it pls do ....

Still can't find a link of any sort between Pharoah Whittall and Edward Blakeway - even in 1911 hymn books and bibles were only passed between family members - Edward Blakeway definitely had the hymn book after Pharoah and it passed on via his son William (my Grandad). No one in the family recognises the name and I can find no evidence of a familial link. One of Edward's daughters married an Edward Perry in 1912???? in 1911 the Blakeways were in Clifton Street not a million miles away from Meadow Rd or Wrights Lane. By 1915 they were in Powke Lane Blackheath.
Have lots of info about the Blakeways - the ones from 1911 Clifton Street - and their spouses but can't access the BCC to add only to view!!

puds69 wrote:found that online but who was she before she became steward?? who was the father of the 1st 3 kids?? can't find that anywhere - also, what is the link between this family and Edward Blakeway? How does Edward come to have Pharoah's hymn book??? surely these things were only shared / handed on etc to family members??

They may have been close friends, maybe both Trustee's of their Local Chapel? Do you know where they worshipped? I would try and find some literature on their local Chapel. HTH from Linell.

puds69 wrote:Still can't find a link of any sort between Pharoah Whittall and Edward Blakeway - even in 1911 hymn books and bibles were only passed between family members - Edward Blakeway definitely had the hymn book after Pharoah and it passed on via his son William (my Grandad). No one in the family recognises the name and I can find no evidence of a familial link. One of Edward's daughters married an Edward Perry in 1912???? in 1911 the Blakeways were in Clifton Street not a million miles away from Meadow Rd or Wrights Lane. By 1915 they were in Powke Lane Blackheath.
Have lots of info about the Blakeways - the ones from 1911 Clifton Street - and their spouses but can't access the BCC to add only to view!!

Hi Puds if you are interested in the BCC site send me a pm
we can have a chat

my Roses were in Clifton street!
about the same time!

Where is the Edward Perry marriage ...be interesting to see how he connects to Mary Perry

So this is the marriage
BLAKEWAY Sarah PERRY Edward T Cradley Heath, Holy Trinity Sandwell Register Office 19/4/302

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=35064958