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*Arc tbc* ---Noah Roberts b abt 1860

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:29 pm
by suepaul9
Looking for my great great grandmother, great great grandfather was Noah Roberts b abt 1860, his wife Maria born abt 1861, they married in 1891 I think, then they had my grandfather Joseph in 1894. I have searched Ancestry and cannot find Maria's birth. It may be Bate, Beak,Beakes, appears different on documents.
They got married in Dudley.

Any help is appreciated.

Re: Noah Roberts b abt 1860

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:39 pm
by Northern Lass
Moving to Black Country Genealogy :-)

Re: Noah Roberts b abt 1860

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:45 pm
by Jimmy
You only think it was 1891. :?:
West Midlands Marriage 1882.
ROBERTS Noah, BATES Maria, Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill Dudley Register Office. 203/005/282.

Re: Noah Roberts b abt 1860

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:49 pm
by Jimmy
How sure are you that they had your grandfather Joseph in 1894.

Re: Noah Roberts b abt 1860

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:59 pm
by cid
This is the only one I can see

1901 Rayboulds Fold Netherton

ROBERTS, Noah Head Married M 43 1858 Coal Miner Hewer Netherton Worcestershire
ROBERTS, Maria Wife Married F 41 1860 Black Heath Staffordshire
LOWE, Thomas Son-In-Law Married M 20 1881 Coal Miner Loader Netherton Worcestershire
LOWE, Sarah Daughter Married F 19 1882 Netherton Worcestershire
ROBERTS, Emanuel Son Single M 16 1885 Coal Miner Loader Netherton Worcestershire
ROBERTS, Samuel Son Single M 11 1890 Netherton Worcestershire
ROBERTS, Mary J Daughter Single F 13 1888 Chin Maker Netherton Worcestershire
ROBERTS, Joseph Son Single M 1 1900 Netherton Worcestershire
ROBERTS, Louie Daughter Single F 0 (6 MOS) 1901 Netherton Worcestershire

Re: Noah Roberts b abt 1860

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:01 pm
by cid
1911 Rayboulds Rold Netherton

ROBERTS, Noah Head Widower M 53 1858 Coal Miner Loader Under Ground Netherton Dudley Worcs
ROBERTS, Samuel Son Single M 20 1891 Milkman On Farm Netherton Dudley Worcs
ROBERTS, Joseph Son Single M 17 1894 Coal Miner - Stock Carrier Under Ground Netherton Dudley Worcs
ROBERTS, Bert Son M 11 1900 School Netherton Dudley Worcs
ROBERTS, Lois Daughter F 10 1901 School Netherton Dudley Worcs
ROBERTS, Alice Daughter F 8 1903 School Netherton Dudley Worcs

Bit of a differene to 1901 ?????

Re: Noah Roberts b abt 1860

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:09 pm
by cid
Possible birth???

Births Mar 1859

BATE Maria W Bromwich 6b 592

Re: Noah Roberts b abt 1860

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:11 pm
by Jimmy
I agree cid, thats the only one I can see in 1901.

Re: Noah Roberts b abt 1860

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:16 pm
by cid
1891 Rayboulds Fold

ROBERTS, Noah Head Married M 32 1859 Coal Miner Netherton Worcestershire
ROBERTS, Maria Wife Married F 30 1861 Blackheath Staffordshire
ROBERTS, Sarah Daughter Single F 7 1884 Netherton Worcestershire
ROBERTS, Emanuel Son Single M 5 1886 Netherton Worcestershire
ROBERTS, Jane Daughter Single F 4 1887 Netherton Worcestershire
ROBERTS, Samuel Son Single M 1 1890 Netherton Worcestershire

1881 Northfield Rd Netherton

ROBERTS, Emanuel Head Married M 47 1834 Coal Miner Dudley Worcestershire
ROBERTS, Sarah Wife Married F 43 1838 Coal Miner Wife Tipton Staffordshire
ROBERTS, Noah Son Single M 22 1859 Coal Miner Dudley Worcestershire
ROBERTS, Edward Son Single M 17 1864 Coal Miner Dudley Worcestershire

Re: Noah Roberts b abt 1860

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:18 pm
by cid
Jimmy wrote:I agree cid, thats the only one I can see in 1901.


Thought that was the one you'd seen Jimmy.

But where was Bert in 1901, wonder if they got them mixed up?????

Re: Noah Roberts b abt 1860

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:23 pm
by cid
Deaths Mar 1907

ROBERTS Maria 47 Dudley 6c 68

Re: Noah Roberts b abt 1860

Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:35 pm
by Jimmy
Could this be Bert.
West Midlands Birth 1901.
ROBERTS Albert, Halesowen. Dudley Register Office. HAL/075/450.

Births Mar 1902.
ROBERTS Albert. Stourbridge. 6c. 157.

Re: Noah Roberts b abt 1860

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 5:40 pm
by suepaul9
Hi
Thanks for all the information, was not around on Thursday, went to see the Sound of Music, whilst I think the film is great, no sure about the stage play at the Hipp. Cannot decide if I liked it or not. Would have preferred to talk to someone on here. :P
Joseph Roberts (my grandad) was born in 1894 as I have a copy of his birth certificate. On it it states Maria Roberts formerly Beaks as his mother. However I have a copy of the marriage certificate from St John's Church in Dudley on September 10th 1882 as it states Maria Bates who was 21, father Eli Bates. I cannot find anything further back. Plus I don't know if it was Beakes,Beaks, or Bates. The witnesses was Samuel Bates and James Bagnall, perhaps Maria's mother's maiden name was Bagnall, who knows.

Re: Noah Roberts b abt 1860

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:06 pm
by Jimmy
What was Eli's occupation on the marriage cert.

Re: Noah Roberts b abt 1860

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:08 pm
by suepaul9
Hi Jimmy,

listed as Minor