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Hi everyone doing well with this,investigating thing even if i say so myself! Howevergreat grandad thomas wilkinson and his wife mary seem to have flew the coop? they were instockton in 1891, by 1901my grandad robert henry wilkinson is on his own with relatives of his mother, living in exeter street stockton ,where agnes who i believe may be his younger sister? of four years is now livingwith him and the newloves, who i believe may be his auntie and uncle can anyone give me a lead please

regards RR

RR
I agree you are doing well -- one suggestion -- when you ask for help re a census you already have it helps to post it so that others can se birthdates/places etc and look for any other clues that might not be so obvious.

Here are the one you mention in your intro

1891 Portrack Farm, Portrack Lane, Stockton On Tees
NEWLOVE, George Head Married M 35 1856 Blacksmith Yorkshire
NEWLOVE, Margaret Wife Married F 32 1859 Middlesbrough Yorkshire
WILKINSON, Thomas Boarder Married M 25 1866 Iron Works Labourer Stokesley Yorkshire
WILKINSON, Mary Boarder Married F 20 1871 Middlesbrough Yorkshire
WILKINSON, Robert Boarder Single M 2 1889 Stockton Co Durham
DAWSON, Stephen Boarder Single M 26 1865 Iron Works Labourer Hartlepool Co Durham
DAWSON, James Boarder Single M 18 1873 Iron Works Labourer Stockton Co Durham
WILKINSON, John Boarder Single M 35 1856 Iron Works Labourer Leeds Yorkshire

1901 18, Exeter Street, Stockton Upon Tees, Stockton On Tees
NEWLOVE, George Head Married M 47 1854 Blacksmith At Iron Works Wetway Yorkshire
NEWLOVE, Margaret A Wife Married F 42 1859 Middlesbro Yorkshire
WILKINSON, Robert H Nephew Single M 11 1890 Stockton Durham
WILKINSON, Agnes P S Niece Single F 6 1895 Stockton Durham
DAWSON, Stephen T Brother-In-Law Single M 36 1865 Shipyard Labourer West Hartlepool Durham

As to where they have gone there are various possibilities ---

1) they are both dead
2)one is dead and the other left children with aunt and uncle to a) start a new life alone b) marry someone else
3) one deserted the other and then a) and b) as in 2)
4) they are both alive and have had a new baby so aunt and uncle are looking after the older siblings
5) they have emigrated and intend to send for children later
6) well -- you have probably got the idea by now so it is over to your imagination and what paper work you can find!

Happy Hunting!!

Possible deaths since they were living in Stockton.

Name: Thomas Wilkinson
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 30
District: Stockton
County: Durham, Yorkshire - North Riding
Volume: 10a
Page: 40


Name: Mary Wilkinson
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 19
District: Stockton
County: Durham, Yorkshire - North Riding
Volume: 10a
Page: 72

Name: Mary Wilkinson
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Year of Registration: 1901
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec (That means she should appear on the 1901 census).
Age at Death: 41
District: Stockton
County: Durham, Yorkshire - North Riding
Volume: 10a
Page: 44

Name: Mary Ann Wilkinson
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Year of Registration: 1893
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 24
District: Stockton
County: Durham, Yorkshire - North Riding
Volume: 10a
Page: 28

Name: Mary Ann Wilkinson
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Year of Registration: 1900
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 44
District: Stockton
County: Durham, Yorkshire - North Riding
Volume: 10a
Page: 47

There are some records showing here,
http://www.stocktonroots.co.uk/

A buriel too for a Thomas Wilkinson in 1892.

You can use this site to enquire if you have the right person. If you search for the name and approx dates when the results come up there is in blue
Details.
If you click that and scroll down a little theres a box to ask a question about the person.
Jo

Maths girl wrote:As to where they have gone there are various possibilities ---

1) they are both dead
2)one is dead and the other left children with aunt and uncle to a) start a new life alone b) marry someone else
3) one deserted the other and then a) and b) as in 2)
4) they are both alive and have had a new baby so aunt and uncle are looking after the older siblings
5) they have emigrated and intend to send for children later
6) well -- you have probably got the idea by now so it is over to your imagination and what paper work you can find!

Happy Hunting!!

thanks for advice RR

Hi All
my investigations up to now if im rightthe reasons james dawson is not with the newlove family at exeter street stockton in 1901 is i believe because he got married,and moved on.the absence of thomas and mary wikinson also at this time i am still investigating, there is a death for a mary wilkinson at the age of 24 so i will investigate that possibility,as it put her in the time zone, around about the time agnes my grandfathers sister was born (IT COULD BE SHE DIED DURING CHILD BIRTH)? agnes turned up at exeter st aged 6, exeter st was the next move for the newlove family after portrack lane so i think agnes was born on portrack lane farm, and moved with the newloves and robert h her brother my grandfather,and steven dawson to exeter st 1901 by 1911 the newloves have moved again this time to 45 craister st stockton, here we find the absence of george newlove who i believe died in 1905 margaret newlove is now head and classified as widow. Agnes is now missing,so is steven, and the only one who remains is my grandfather robert who by now is employed as a loco fireman.two years hence from this he will marry my grandmother lilian Dinsdale.

any thoughts on this would be welcomed still awaiting grandfathers mar cert.

regards RR

might help to see where the kids are in 1911 ?

1911 22 Donald St Stockton - on - Tees
DAWSON, Stephen T Head Married M 47 1864 Fitters Labourer Steel Works Hartlepool Durham
DAWSON, Eliza Wife Married 9 years F 50 1861 Norton Durham
MATON, Alfred Boarder Single M 58 1853 Shipyard Platers Helper London
DAWSON, Agnes Daughter Single F 7 1904 Stockton on Tees Durham

Can't find Agnes Wilkinson --marriage/death/census but wild shot??--could be worth trying to discount in 1901

1911 12 High St Norton Stockton on Tees
GOLIGHTLY, Thomas Head Married M 67 1844 Against For House Propert Kelloe Co Durham
GOLIGHTLY, Mary Elizabeth Wife Married 43 years F 70 1841 Norton Co Durham
ALMOND, Jane Annie Sister In Law Widow F 72 1839 Norton Co Durham
WILSON, Agnes Servant F 17 1894 Norton Co Durham

Hi mg
What does discount in1901 meen?

regards RR

Sorry I didn't explain that very well

I meant that Agnes Wilson in 1901 fits Agnes Wilkinson up to a point ie same first name, age

Surname Wilkinson- to - Wilson could be a transcription error from employer not listening correctly or being bothered about a servant or she lied

Place of birth Norland rather than Stockton -- raises questions -- employer couldn't be bothered? Norland is close to Stockton?(I don't know that -would need to look it up) or she lied

I just felt it was close enough to consider and that one possiblity would be to "discount" her by finding Agnes Wilson better match in 1901 and so decide she was not a possibility for our Agnes Wilkinson.

HTH

Sadly for us trying to find Agnes Wilkinson -- it looks as though this might be the Agnes Wilson in 1901 that I found in 1911

1901 6, Hallifield Street, Norton
WILSON, Edward Head Married M 48 1853 Boring Machine Worker Billingham Durham
WILSON, Sarah A Wife Married F 42 1859 Billingham Durham
WILSON, Thomas Son Single M 17 1884 Marine Engine Fitter Stockton on Tees Durham
WILSON, Ella Son Single F 9 1892 Norton Durham
WILSON, Agnes Daughter Single F 7 1894 Norton Durham
WILSON, Horace Son Single M 5 1896 Norton Durham
WILSON, Edwin Son Single M 3 1898 Norton Durham

Maths girl wrote:Can't find Agnes Wilkinson --marriage/death/census but wild shot??--could be worth trying to discount in 1901

1911 12 High St Norton Stockton on Tees
GOLIGHTLY, Thomas Head Married M 67 1844 Against For House Propert Kelloe Co Durham
GOLIGHTLY, Mary Elizabeth Wife Married 43 years F 70 1841 Norton Co Durham
ALMOND, Jane Annie Sister In Law Widow F 72 1839 Norton Co Durham
WILSON, Agnes Servant F 17 1894 Norton Co Durham

RR can you see that these are a better match -- sorry to raise your hopes there

I've found Agnes' birth if that is of any use.

Dec 1894
Wilkinson Agnes Potter S Stockton 10a 57

thank you all for the help, you have given me,so many avenues/ dead ends/ possibilities/ wonderfull stuff. doesn`t half wear you out tho?
think i need to move on from agnes just for a bit and concentrate on my great grandfather thomas wilkinson and his wife mary`s mothers and fathers so without ado i wish you all well,im for my bed goodnight.