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COMPLETED---Powells
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:07 pm
by philmex1
Hi Everyone
Trying to find out more about my 2nd great grandfather William Powell (b. 1838 in Rowley Regis). I've found census material for him (1841-1891) and I suspect his wife was Sarah Wakeman (b. 1831 in Bromsgrove). I have a marriage date of 1856 at St Giles' but I'm not totally certain if she is the right person. Can anyone confirm or indeed help with any further info about the family. I've come to a total dead end on this one!
Best wishes and many thanks!
Phil (philmex1)
Re: Powells
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:00 pm
by Maths girl
Can you give us one of the census to give a bit more detail on William as a search produces several possibilities based on birthdate and name alone
Re: Powells
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:23 pm
by peterd
Re: Powells
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:00 pm
by philmex1
peterd, you're right - this is the guy. I'll upload a census page so you've got some more info, Mathsgirl. Thanks for your help!
Sorry phil removed census image as poss breach of copyright, Pete
you may type out what in the census as long as it altered ie leave something out like head, daug, england, male/female, then your not breaching copyright as you have not copied it word for word
Re: Powells
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:20 pm
by philmex1
Thanks Pete, didn't know it was a naughty to do that!
Reference is RG 9/2939
1861 family living on Garratt's Lane, Rowley Reg
William Powell - H, aged 30, b. Rowley Reg
Sarah - W aged 29, b. Bromsgrove
John - Bro, aged 28, b. Rowley Regis
Mary Grove - Boarder, aged 27, b. Rowley Reg
Mary Ann Powell - D, aged 4, b. Rowley Reg
Henry Powell - S, aged 2, b. Rowley Reg
Mary Powell - Niece, aged 9, b. Rowley Reg
Is giving info like this OK?
Phil
Re: Powells
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:23 pm
by peterd
philmex1 wrote:Thanks Pete, didn't know it was a naughty to do that!
Reference is RG 9/2939
1861 family living on Garratt's Lane, Rowley Reg
William Powell - H, aged 30, b. Rowley Reg
Sarah - W aged 29, b. Bromsgrove
John - Bro, aged 28, b. Rowley Regis
Mary Grove - Boarder, aged 27, b. Rowley Reg
Mary Ann Powell - D, aged 4, b. Rowley Reg
Henry Powell - S, aged 2, b. Rowley Reg
Mary Powell - Niece, aged 9, b. Rowley Reg
Is giving info like this OK?
Phil
yeah phil thats how most of use do it
Re: Powells
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:24 pm
by peterd
thats on the link with these ones
1871: Garrattts Lane, Rowley Regis, Staffs
Thomas Powell 41 Head Coal Miner
Sarah Powell 39 Wife
Henry Powell 12 Son
Sarah Jane Powell 6 Dau
William Powell 4 Son
Eliza Powell 1 Dau
Mary Powell 20 Sister U Nailmaker
all born Rowley Regis, Staffs
1881: 73 Garratts Lane
William Powell 63 - Coalminer (age mistranscribed?
Sarah Powell 48 - b Bromsgrove
William Powell 14 Son - Labourer for chainmaker
Eliza Powell 10 Dau - Nurse domestic
Emma Powell 7 Dau
Sarah J. Powell 22 - daug in law - Widow - Gen serv
William H. Powell 2 - grandson
George Powell - 6 mths - grandson
others b Rowley
1891:146# Wellington Street, Rowley
William Powell 64 - Stone breaker
Sarah Powell 63 - b Bromsgrove
William Powell 24 - son - unm - Coalminer
William Hy Powell 12 - grandson
others b Rowley
1901: See daughter Eliza
Re: Powells
Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:06 pm
by Maths girl
With that many census and no obvious link to Wakeman's I think the only option is to buy a birth certificate for one of the children and see Sarah's maiden name from that -- I suppose there is an outside chance there is more detail in a Baptism record!!
Re: Powells
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:51 am
by Northern Lass
Any likely marriages?
Re: Powells
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:00 am
by grangers14
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1856
POWELL William WAKEMAN Sarah Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/2/317
Re: Powells
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:12 am
by Maths girl
grangers14 wrote:West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1856
POWELL William WAKEMAN Sarah Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/2/317
This brings us back to Phil's question in the first place
philmex1 wrote:Hi Everyone
Trying to find out more about my 2nd great grandfather William Powell (b. 1838 in Rowley Regis). I've found census material for him (1841-1891) and I suspect his wife was Sarah Wakeman (b. 1831 in Bromsgrove). I have a marriage date of 1856 at St Giles' but I'm not totally certain if she is the right person. Can anyone confirm or indeed help with any further info about the family. I've come to a total dead end on this one!
Phil (philmex1)
We seem to have got to the same conclusion so I think a birth certificate of one of the children to find mother's maiden name is the next step.
Re: Powells
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:10 pm
by Northern Lass
I agree and then we can look up that marriage for you Phil

Re: Powells
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 8:22 pm
by philmex1
Thanks everybody for your suggestions! I think I'll order my great grandmother's birth certificate - that should certainly help a lot. I'll just have to make sure that I choose the correct Mary Ann Powell!
Phil
Re: Powells
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 9:01 pm
by Northern Lass
philmex1 wrote:Thanks everybody for your suggestions! I think I'll order my great grandmother's birth certificate - that should certainly help a lot. I'll just have to make sure that I choose the correct Mary Ann Powell!
Phil
Phil you can order it from the local archives and say you only want it if mother is such and such and father so and so
So they normally do a sweep 2years either side of a date
and Dudley or Sandwell are excellent
really really good staff
they will let you know if they have a likely one before you part with any cash
if you dont have the emails email me and I will give you the email
I have never met such helpful regis offices and I drive em bonkers!

Re: Powells
Posted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:33 am
by Northern Lass
Flagging to archive this now pending further info from Phil re certif
let us know how you get on
