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WISE family.
I very sorry but I very little to go on but the following is the little I have.,,,,,,,,,,

Caroline Louisa WISE m. Harry Herbert Button on the 21 Oct. 1894 St. Saviour, Paddington, London.
Her parents were George WISE [Laborer] Mother unknown.
To get a ball park figure on Caroline's age, Harry's b.1869-d.1927.

Can we trace her family back, that would be my aim.

Once again sorry to have so little to give you.
Anything you can wring out of that I would be truly appreciative.

I have not been to this forum for sometime but see it is look brilliant.
Best to all, Rayh

1901
BUTTON, Harry H Head Married M 31 1870 Painters Labourer
N Kensington
London
BUTTON, Caroline L Wife Married F 29 1872
N Kensington
London
BUTTON, Harry H Son M 5 1896
N Kensington
London
BUTTON, Elizabeth Daughter F 4 1897
N Kensington
London
BUTTON, Daisy Daughter F 1 1900
N Kensington
London
WISE, Caroline Boarder Widow F 78 1823
N Kensington
London

2, Rendle Street, Kensington

1881
WISE, George Head Married M 66 1815 Labourer
Stoke
Buckinghamshire
WISE, Caroline Wife Married F 55 1826 Labourers Wife
London
Middlesex
WISE, Fredrick Son Single M 21 1860 Labourer
Folkestone
Kent
WISE, Charles Son Single M 19 1862 Labourer
Folkestone
Kent
WISE, Louise Daughter Single F 9 1872 Scholar
Kensington
Middlesex
53, Southam St, Kensington County:
Middlesex

1871
WISE, George Head M 55 1816 Bicklayers Labourer Middlesex
WISE, Caroline Wife F 45 1826 Kent
WISE, William Son M 18 1853 Kent
WISE, Frederick Son M 11 1860 Kent
WISE, Charles Son M 9 1862 Kent
WISE, Emma Daughter F 7 1864 Kent
New Street, Kensington

poss mar

George Wise
Father: Jonathan Wise

Spouse: Caroline Louisa Baker
Father: Charles Baker
Marriage: 02 OCT 1843 Cheriton, Kent

1891 14, Edenham Street, Kensington
WISE, George Head Married M 80 1811 General Labourer Stoke Buckinghamshire
WISE, Caroline Wife Married F 64 1827 London
WISE, Frederick Son Single M 32 1859 General Labourer Folkstone Kent

Possible for Charles
1891 144, Wormington Road, Kensington
WISE, Charley Head Married M 28 1863 General Labourer Sandgate Kent
WISE, Elizabeth Wife Married F 23 1868 Ironer Kensal Town London

1861 Bayle Street, St Mary Eanswith, Folkestone
WISE, Caroline Wife Married F 35 1826 Charwoman Folkestone Kent
WISE, John Son Unmarried M 12 1849 Scholar Folkestone Kent
WISE, Wilm Son Unmarried M 8 1853 Scholar Folkestone Kent
WISE, Fredk Son Unmarried M 1 1860 Scholar Folkestone Kent

1851 Bait, Folkestone
WISE, George Head Married M 37 1814 Labourer Stoke Buckinghamshire
WISE, Caroline Wife Married F 25 1826 Wife London
WISE, George Son Unmarried M 7 1844 Folkstone Kent
WISE, John Son Unmarried M 2 1849 Folkstone Kent
WISE, William Nephew Unmarried M 14 1837 Labourer Stoke Buckinghamshire

Lookng at the Church Register for the marriage....

She is 25 years of age and he is 25.

Both living at 97 Kilburn Park Road.

Both signed the register.

Emma Button was one of the witness. Can't read the other.

Caroline Baker is her mother according the N.S.W BDM and a tree I found on Ancestry.

Hi Listers,
I wonder if I could have your thoughts on this.....
George Wise b1815 [ father of Caroline Louise.] b/cen rg11 0039
Father; George b.1791 b/cen. 1841 H107 61 5]
Mother, Charlotte b. 1796.
Siblings.
George b1811 [4 yr differential ]
John b.1821
Charlotte b.1826
Frederick b. 1831.

George and Caroline [Tompkins] b. Thame, Buckingham.
Source; Freebdm q4 1864 15 251

Another marriage suggested--
Jonathan Wise m. Charlotte Brown 12/10/1804.
Jonathan Snr. is supposed to be George Wise b.1791's father . Taking a reasonable 20yrs from the marriage date gives me the approximate birth date of 1784.
Giving the other date the same treatment is just as ugly.


Family Search [pilot]
dd/mm/yyyyy
1) George bp 18/07/1814 [Bap. 17/7/1814 Stoke Poges]
2) Jonathan ( John ) 6/7/1823
3) Sarah 20/06/1818
4) Joseph 9/12/1817
5) Frederick 19/06/1825
6) Charlotte 10/06/1821 All Stoke Poges Bucks

George is ok but the other siblings are all over the shop. That is when compared to the siblings list above.

I'd value your thoughts.
Regards, Rayh

1841 census is meant have people over the age of 15 rounded down to the lower 5 years, so a 19 year old should be shown as 15. 28 as 25 etc...
It wasnt always the case though.
If its christenings you have looked at, they could be any age when it was. Not soon after they were born.
Ages and places of birth can be all sorts in census. Its just what has been put down.

Confusing but adds to the fun!
Jo

Ive brought this back up to see if theres anything new?
Or to archive?
Jo