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We have 2 Joseph Taylors with mother Phyllis
are they the same

This one with parents Samuel and Phyllis
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =573501830

and this one with mother Phyllis Taylor
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =428514175

Trying to get my head around this...

I don't believe she married. Also think she is the daug of Josiah & Sarah (Hipkiss) Taylor.
She stays close to parents and family thru the census.

No father on first kid Mary Ann's christening, then 3 years later Samuel appears on second kid Joseph's christening, names 3rd kid Samuel. Don't see a bap for either Samuel or William.

1841
Finger i hole, Rowley
Joseph Whitehall 59 - Nailor
Sarah Whitehall 69
Elijah Whitehall 25 - Nailor
Ruth Whitehall 25
Sarah Whitehall 6
Tabitha Whitehall 4
Emanuel Whitehall 2
Philip Taylor 35 - (def Phillis)
Mary Taylor 12
Joseph Taylor 9
Samuel Taylor 7
William Taylor 5
all b in c

Extracted
MARY ANN TAYLOR
Christening: 16 AUG 1829 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester
Parents:
Mother: PHILIS TAYLOR


JOSEPH TAYLOR
Christening: 12 AUG 1832 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester
Parents:
Father: SAMUEL TAYLOR
Mother: PHILLIS

Don't see a bap for Samuel or William

1851
Gadds Green Rowley Regis
Joseph Whitehall h m 69 nailforger b RR
Sarah Whitehall wife 77 nailforger b RR
Phillis Taylor Inmate widow 46 nail forger b RR
Joseph Taylor Inmate u 18 Coalminer b RR
Samuel Taylor son 16 Coalminer b RR
William Taylor son 14 nail forger b RR

1861
Gadds Green, Rowley
Philis Taylor 56 - Unm - Nailer
Joseph Taylor 28 - Unm - Coalminer

next door
Sarah Whitall 90 - Pauper

1871
Gadds Green, Rowley
Pasi Whitehall 29 - Miner
Catherine Whitehall 29 - Nailor
Joseph Hodgetts 9 - Stepson
May Whitehall 7
Wm Whitehall 5
Elijah Whitehall 3
Prissiller Whitehall 1
Philliser Taylor 69 - Boarder - Inmate - Nailor
all b Rowley

This is where I've got too...

So do you think that I should merge this lot
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections
ie that Phyllis as this one

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =198785762


and then do you think we should add Samuel as the son too

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =894828165


I think they are all the same ones
Samuel calls dau Phyllis
his father is Samuel
and
occup for samuel jnr is coal miner and age is good

I am totally confused on this one

and not at all sure if they are the same Joseph I sort of feel they are
but my head is full of umpeen look ups to sort

one of the look ups is a marriage for Samuel Homer Taylor

I think this is our samuel who marries that Mary ann Kibler

1st marriage father is a Samuel Homer taylor
2nd marriage father is a Samuel Taylor

can someone just look at this and see what they think

I have looked up the marriage for Samuel Taylor
I think it checks out that he married Mary Ann Lowe dau of William Lowe
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

And Mary Ann Taylor nee Lowe on 1871 is living near her family

1871: Blackheath, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire
Samuel Taylor 38 Head Coalminer
Mary A Taylor 36 Wife Nailmaker
Eliza Taylor 10 Dau
Elizabeth Taylor 8 Dau
Henry Taylor 4 Son
Sarah A Taylor 2 Dau
Phebe Taylor 1 month Dau
(all born Rowley Regis)

Neighbours living either side are Adams and Lowe families

His father is now a Samuel Homer Taylor
on 2nd marriage it was a Samuel taylor

I still think he is brother to Joseph TAylor

and just wondered if the Homer gives us any more clues
Did Phyllis Taylor live with a Samuel Homer???

Could the surname Whitehall help too? As Phyliss is with them 1841 and 1851.
Jo

Leaving this for the moment will come back to it

moving to archived