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*Archive?* George Jinks: Missing 1861 Census

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 1:06 pm
by snoopysue
I'm having trouble finding George Jinks' 1861 Census, can anybody help? :idea:

This is what I've got so far:

George Jinks born about 1829 in Wilnecote, Warwickshire.
Parents: George Jinks and Elizabeth (Unknown surname).
Married Ann Sandall in Tamworth (confirmed by marriage certificate)

1841 Census: Watling Street, Wilnecote, Warwickshire
George Jinks, 35, Coal miner, b. warwickshire
Elizabeth, 35, (not born in warwickshire)
Sarah, 14, b. warwickshire
George, 12, b. warwickshire
Elizabeth, 7, b. warwickshire
William, 10 b. warwickshire
Eliza, 5. born warwickshire.


1851 Census: Village, Wilnecote, Warwickshire
Elizabeth Jinks, Head, Widow, 50, Colliers Widow, Warwickshire Wilnecote
George Jinks, Son, Unmarried, 21, Tilemaker, Warwickshire, Wilnecote
William Jinks, Son, Unmarried, Labourer, Warwickshire, Wilnecote


George married Ann Sandall 16 Oct 1854 at the Parish Church, Tamworth. They are down as living in Kettlebrook.
I can find Ann and the children on the 1861 Census, living with her parents (William Sandal and Sarah Sandal) at 1 Stone Cottages, Castle Liberty, Tamworth. Although a transcription error has them down as Jenks, I am confident that it is Jinks. The children (George H, 5; William, 3 and Ann M, 1) are down as being born in Kettlebrook.
George isn't at his mothers' address either - She is still in Watling Street, Wilnecote, with son William.

By 1871the family is in West Bromwich:
John Street, West Bromwich
George Jinks, head, Mar, 41, Stoker, Warwickshire
Ann Jinks, wife, mar, 36, Laundress, Twogates, warwickshire
George henry Jinks, son, 15, labourer, Kettlebrook
William Jinks, son, 13, Labourer, Kettlebrook
Ann Maria Jinks, 11, Scholar, Kettlebrook

Any ideas - I've checked criminal records, there's nothing convincing. I'm stumped!! :?

Sue

Re: George Jinks: Missing 1861 Census

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:18 pm
by linell
I also have three or four missing Head's of households in 1861, was that the time of the Crimea War I wonder :?: They could have been in the Army or Navy possibly. Linell.

Re: George Jinks: Missing 1861 Census

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:35 pm
by MarkCDodd
This may be him...although Evesham is in Worcestershire.

1861 census transcription details for: Belgium Paddle Steam & Hillhome Trade
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG09 Piece: 4469 Folio: 10 Page: 1

Reg. District: British Ships in Home Ports Sub District:
Parish: Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address:
County: British Ships in home ports
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation ,
Disability Where Born
JINKS, Geo Married M 29 1832 Out Door Officer Customs Evesham

Re: George Jinks: Missing 1861 Census

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 4:02 pm
by snoopysue
Thanks Mark and Linell :-)

The Crimea is a possibilty. I don't know if there are any records of service for this?
I've seen this census, but there's not enough info to be sure one way or the other.

Sue

Re: George Jinks: Missing 1861 Census

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:47 pm
by snoopysue
linell wrote:I also have three or four missing Head's of households in 1861, was that the time of the Crimea War I wonder :?: They could have been in the Army or Navy possibly. Linell.


I've checked up on the Crimean War, it was between 1853 and 1856. I don't know if all the servicemen came home quickly, some might have been enlisted for a longer period - does anybody know?

Sue

Re: George Jinks: Missing 1861 Census

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 6:31 pm
by linell
Hi Sue, my hubby said some of them would have been kept on for a few years afterwards, clearing up and burying the dead, remembering that most of the foot soldiers would have been walking, it could have taken them years to get home. It can't be a co-incidence that so many men are missing from the 1861 Census. Linell.

Re: George Jinks: Missing 1861 Census

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 6:55 pm
by MarkCDodd
You signed on for 12 years minimum. Many were returned home before 12 years and put into reserve.

There are two George Jinks serving in the army in 1861.

One is born about 1836 in Bradford, Yorkshire and signed up in 1859.

The other is born about 1834 in Macclesfield, Cheshire and singed up in 1854.

Re: George Jinks: Missing 1861 Census

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 7:15 pm
by snoopysue
MarkCDodd wrote:You signed on for 12 years minimum. Many were returned home before 12 years and put into reserve.

There are two George Jinks serving in the army in 1861.

One is born about 1836 in Bradford, Yorkshire and signed up in 1859.

The other is born about 1834 in Macclesfield, Cheshire and singed up in 1854.


Thanks for the info. Neither matches up with my George Jinks - he was born in the Tamworth area, Warwickshire.
Other than that it does tie up that he could have been in the army - I have his children born 1856, 1857, 1858 then there's a gap until 1871. I'd wondered if maybe there was a mistake in the Census, but being in the army for 12 years could be the reason. :-)
I may never know for certain, but it's worth keeping in mind.

Sue

Re: George Jinks: Missing 1861 Census

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 7:24 pm
by MarkCDodd
He is not in the Chelsea Pensioner records so I doubr he was in the Army.

Hs could have been Navy, Merchant Navy or Marines.

Re: George Jinks: Missing 1861 Census

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 8:02 pm
by Maths girl
Could he have made a visit to USA etc? to investigate the possibility of emmigration

Re: George Jinks: Missing 1861 Census

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 8:41 pm
by snoopysue
Thanks again for everyone's input :P
I've had a look on ancestry, no sign of him leaving the country - and as far as I know, no members of the family had emigrated at that point.

If he was in the Navy, where would I look? :?:

Sue

Re: George Jinks: Missing 1861 Census

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:20 pm
by MarkCDodd
Always start at The National Archives.

He could also have been in the East India Army. I have the 1855 list and he isn't on it.

I just checked applications for passports and he isn't there so he did not travel as a private citizen.

He is not on the Filby's passenger lists (although there is a George Jinks travelling to Ontario in Canada in 1861 but he is 4 years old).

Couldn;t find him the the crew lists for merchant ships.

Have you looked at the assizes to see if he was behind bars?

Re: George Jinks: Missing 1861 Census

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:20 am
by snoopysue
I've checked in ancestry, to see if he was in prison, and although there are several George Jinks, there is nothing that is convincing. As I recall, one trial date was 1863, and another was 1859, but in that case there was an aquital.

Sue

Re: George Jinks: Missing 1861 Census

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:26 am
by Jimmy
I noticed that in 1871 Georges was a Stoker.

Stoker, Tended and fed coal to boilers in mills and aboard ship.

Re: George Jinks: Missing 1861 Census

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:32 am
by Jimmy
1881. 65 John St, Wednesbury, Westbrom.
George Jinks 51. Stoker In Gas Works.
Ann Jinks 46.
William Jinks 23.
Annie Jinks 19. Daughter in Law.
Eliza Jinks 9.
Elizabeth Jinks 7.
Sarah L. Jinks 3.