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I am in a bit of a mess with this lot
can you have a look pls and help me sort it

I think he married twice but something just doesnt gel

either there are 2 John Bradleys
or
he marries twice

can someone post the census etc

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =712132716

JOHN BRADLEY Christening: 04 JUL 1813 Kingswinford, Stafford,
Parents:
Father: JOHN BRADLEY
Mother: ANN Extracted birth

1841 Shut End Lane (next to Tansey Green)
Kingswinford
John Bradley 60 Excavator
Ann Bradley 60
John Bradley 25 Excavator

1851 (something) Brook Kingswinford
John Bradley h m 35 Excavator b Kingswinford
Mary Bradley wife 31
John Bradley son 6
Mary Ann Bradley dau 3
Lusha(must be Louisa) 2
all b Kingswinford

I think that it is the same guy
1841 he is at Tansey green an excavator
1851 he is Kingswinford an excavator
1861 he is a sinker and puts born Tansey green...but he is with a different woman and kids dont match

1861 George St Dudley
John Bradley h m 45 sinker b Tansey Green Staffs
Mary Ann Bradley wife m 33 Lancs Manchester
Elizabeth Bradley dau 12 b Woodside Worcs....................I dont think this is his child b abt 1849
Sarah Ann Bradley dau 8 b Woodside Worcs..................not sure if this is his
Caroline Bradley dau 6 b Chesterfield Derby..................not sure if this is his
William Bradley son 3 b Worcs Dudley
John Bradley son 1 b Worcs Dudley..............................this is his as marriage proves it

In 1851 he is with the other Mary and on IGI they have a dau Phoebe Elizabeth bapt 1854

There is this in 1852
but then how can Phebe Elizabeth be bapt in 1854

1852
BRADLEY John WOODNORTH Mary A Kingswinford, St Mary Dudley Register Office 213/003/43

Well this is odd

in 1861 those kids are with mother Mary and a Richard Malpass

1861 (something) Brook Kingswinford
Richard Malpass h m 33 boat loader b Stafford Bobbington
Mary Malpass wife 40 b Dudley
John Bradley son of wife 16 Boat loader
Mary A Bradley dau of wife 12
Louisa Bradley dau of wife 10

Sinker, Sunk shafts for mining.

So was he ever married to her our John Bradley


1854
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
MALPASS Richard BRADLEY Mary Brierley Hill, St Michael Dudley Register Office 210/001/402

Births Jun 1854
BRADLEY Phoebe Maria Stourbridge 6c 189


Marriages Sep 1854
BRADLEY Mary Stourbridge 6c 213

Jimmy wrote:Sinker, Sunk shafts for mining.

So that links with an excavator
and we can tie the 1861 in with "new" wife to the 1841 cos of birth place being TAnsey green
and tie 1851 in with occup excavator


odd though this is...

West Midlands Marriage 1852.
BRADLEY John. WOODNORTH Mary A. Kingswinford, St Mary. Dudley Register Office. 213/003/43.

Mary Bradley
Father: Joseph Hodgetts
Marriages:
Spouse: Richard Malpap
Marriage: 25 SEP 1854 Brierley Hill, Stafford,

Extracted


1842
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HODGETTS Mary BRADLEY John West Bromwich, Christ Church Sandwell Register Office 23/1/283

and interesting
1838
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HODGETTS Mary BRADLEY Noah Kingswinford, St Mary Dudley Register Office 213/001/33

I have put those for look up

but it is odd
If they have that Phoebe Elizabeth bapt in 1854
where is her birth?
there is a Phebe Maria
and a poss death
but then Mary marries in 1854 to Richard Malpass
and
if that is John Bradley and Mary Anns marriage then that is in 1852

head gone!

Is this a possible second John Bradley

1841 Brockmoore Green, Kingswinford
EDWARDS, Josiah M 75 1766 Staffordshire Hewer
EDWARDS, Susanna F 75 1766 Staffordshire
BRADLEY, John M 30 1811 Staffordshire Labourer
BRADLEY, Eliza F 30 1811 Staffordshire
BRADLEY, John M 10 1831 Staffordshire

Maths girl wrote:Is this a possible second John Bradley

1841 Brockmoore Green, Kingswinford
EDWARDS, Josiah M 75 1766 Staffordshire Hewer
EDWARDS, Susanna F 75 1766 Staffordshire
BRADLEY, John M 30 1811 Staffordshire Labourer
BRADLEY, Eliza F 30 1811 Staffordshire
BRADLEY, John M 10 1831 Staffordshire

We can discount this one -- still married to Eliza in 1861
BRADLEY, John Head Married M 46 1815 Carter Staffordshire Pattingsham
BRADLEY, Eliza Wife Married F 47 1814 Shropshire Thales