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This is a spin off from another thread.

Marriage looked up by Rocky Fowler, thank you!

10 Sep 1900 St Martin (Pepper Box) Tipton
Thomas Harris- 31- B- Iron Worker- Bridge Rd- Father, Thomas Harris -Iron Worker
Eliza Sheldon- 21- S- 56 Bridge Rd -Father, William Sheldon- Labourer
Wit; John Harris- Hannah Butler

Can we find Thomas and father on earlier census?
Here on BCC
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =466027027

Possible

1891 44 Toll End Road Tipton

HARRIS, Thomas Head Married M 60 1831 Forge Iron Worker Stourbridge Worcestershire
HARRIS, Ellen Wife Married F 58 1833 Hay Green Worcestershire
HARRIS, Phoebe Daughter Married F 26 1865 Tipton Staffordshire
HARRIS, Thomas Son Single M 21 1870 Forge Iron Worker Tipton Staffordshire
GRAINGER, Ellen Daughter Married F 19 1872 Tipton Staffordshire
HARRIS, William Son Single M 13 1878 Tube Factory Labourer Tipton Staffordshire
GRAINGER, Thomas Lodger Married M 21 1870 Forge Iron Worker Tipton Staffordshire
THOMAS, William A Grandson M 1 1890 Tipton Staffordshire

1881 43 Toll End Road Tipton

HARRIS, Thomas Head Married M 50 1831 (I) Mill Furnaceman Stourbridge Worcestershire
HARRIS, Ellen Wife Married F 48 1833 Hall Green Worcestershire
HARRIS, James Son Single M 20 1861 Labourer Stourbridge Worcestershire
HARRIS, Harriet Daughter Single F 18 1863 Stourbridge Worcestershire
HARRIS, Pheobe Daughter Single F 16 1865 Toll End Staffordshire
HARRIS, John Son Single M 14 1867 Toll End Staffordshire
HARRIS, Thomas Son Single M 11 1870 Scholar Toll End Staffordshire
HARRIS, Nellie Daughter Single F 8 1873 Scholar Toll End Staffordshire
HARRIS, William Son Single M 3 1878 Scholar Toll End Staffordshire

1871 Toll End Road Tipton

HARRIS, Thomas Head M 39 1832 Mill Furnace Man Worcestershire
HARRIS, Ellen Wife F 38 1833 Worcestershire
HARRIS, Henry T Son M 20 1851 Puddler Worcestershire
HARRIS, Eliza Daughter F 13 1858 Worcestershire
HARRIS, Harriett Daughter F 8 1863 Worcestershire
HARRIS, James Son M 10 1861 Worcestershire
HARRIS, Phebe Daughter F 6 1865 Staffordshire
HARRIS, John Son M 4 1867 Staffordshire
HARRIS, Thomas Son M 1 1870 Staffordshire

1901

HARRIS, Thomas Head Married M 71 1830 Retired Ironwork's Puddler
Stourbridge
Worcestershire
HARRIS, Ellen Wife Married F 69 1832
Stourbridge
Worcestershire
HARRIS, John Son Married M 34 1867 Ironwork's Puddler
Tipton
Staffordshire
THOMAS, Alfred Grand Son M 11 1890
Tipton
Staffordshire
GRAINGER, William Grand Son M 7 1894
Tipton
Staffordshire
58, Bridge Road, Tipton

Could someone look at the 1861 Census and see if they cn work out this name please, is it Maryann?

1851. Mount Pleasant, Kingswinford.
Thomas Patrick, head, W, 51, Maltster, Kniver
Thomas Harris, lodger, 21, Roller at the Ironworks, Stourbridge
Ellen, wife of lodger, 17, employed at home, Oldswinford
Henry Thomas, son, 3 months, Kingswinford
Phebe Cartwright, visitor, 6, Oldswinford

1861. Mount Street, Stourbridge
Thomas Harris, head, 31, Furnaceman at Ironworks
Ellen, wife, 29,
Henry T, son, 10, Brierly hill
Elizabeth, daur, 8, Brierly hill
Ma? Daur, 4,
Eliza, daur, 3
James, son, 2 months
All others born Stourbridge

Possible Marriage?

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1850
HARRIS Thomas PATRICK Hellen Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/010/297

??
1841 Census. Lye. Oldswinford.
Thomas Patrick, 40, Day Lab, Not born in County
Phoebe, 40, Nailer
Harriot, 15,
Eliza, 15,
Mary, 15,
Noah, 10,
Elen, 8,
Richard, 7,
Thomas 5,
Zachariah, 2
All others born in County

Children add (apart from the one I cant read) and census
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =513820585
Marriage added to look ups.
Jo

grangers14 wrote:
1861. Mount Street, Stourbridge
Thomas Harris, head, 31, Furnaceman at Ironworks
Ellen, wife, 29,
Henry T, son, 10, Brierly hill
Elizabeth, daur, 8, Brierly hill
Ma? Daur, 4,
Eliza, daur, 3
James, son, 2 months
All others born Stourbridge

FMP and Ancestry have it as Morgan -I can see why - certainly the enumerator went over it to try to make it clear and failed -- it could be Maryan - but certainly only appears to have one n

Hard to read isnt it MG?
Still not sure what to put.
Jo

As she doesn't seem to be with the family in 1871 when she would have been 14 -- she was either dead ( look for possible death? ) or visiting family or a live in servant -- finding out which of those are possible might help clarify things

I havent seen a birth or a death for Morgan Harris around the area. Loads of Mary Anns though.

grangers14 wrote:I havent seen a birth or a death for Morgan Harris around the area. Loads of Mary Anns though.

That suggests MAryann to me!

Added as Mary Ann and made a note unsure of forname.
Think this can be archived for now.
Jo

Thanks for the look up Maggie

03 Nov 1850 St Thomas Dudley
Thomas Harris, Aged 21, B, Forge Man living in Mount Pleasant, Father James Harris - Forgeman
Hellen Patrick, Aged 20, S, living in Dudley, Father Thomas Patrick, Labourer
Witnesses : Eliza Hall and Charles C Wright

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =168240164

1841. Lower Lane, Old Swinford
James Harris, 35, Labourer
Elizabeth, 30
Thomas, 11,
Caroline, 9,
James, 5,
/Isaac Harris, 20, Labourer
Jane, 19, Not born County
All others born County

1851, Lower Road, Stourbridge
James Harris, head, 47, Forgeman
Elizabeth, wife, 45,
Caroline, daur, 19,
Sarah Ann, daur, 7,
Henry Haynes, lodger, 21, Forgeman
All born Stourbridge