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1911 Census - Thomas and Lucy Lee or Wilson?
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 1:25 pm
by mallosa
Can anyone see the following family in 1911 please? If not under Lee, surname could be Wilson
1901: 7 bk of 75 Icknield Square, Ladywood, BirminghamThomas Lee 34 Head Lab in Tube Works
Lucy Lee 33 Wife
William Lee 13 Son
Agnes Lee 11 Dau
Thomas Lee 10 Son
Fred Lee 9 Son
Edward Lee 8 Son
Alice Lee 4 Dau
(all born Birmingham)
Re: 1911 Census - Thomas and Lucy Lee or Wilson?
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 6:44 pm
by Annie
Mallosa can't find Thomas under Lee or Wilson in Birmingham, will try some of the others and see if they come to light.
Annie
Re: 1911 Census - Thomas and Lucy Lee or Wilson?
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 6:59 pm
by Annie
Could Louise be Lucy ??
1911 : 21 Spring Hill Passage Birmingham
WILSON, Louisa Head Widow F 43 1868 Charwoman Birmingham
WILSON, Frederick Son Single M 19 1892 News Agent Birmingham
WILSON, Edwin Son Single M 17 1894 Nail Maker Birmingham
WILSON, Alice Daughter F 14 1897 Wirer Birmingham
WILSON, James Son M 7 1904 Birmingham
WILSON, Henry Son M 2 1909 Birmingham
TAYLOR, Albert Boarder Single M 21 1890 News Agent Birmingham
12 Children 4 Died
I'll keep looking
Annie
Re: 1911 Census - Thomas and Lucy Lee or Wilson?
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 7:26 pm
by Annie
Sorry Mallosa I'm having no luck, I have tried the childrens names both Lee and Wilson and there are some but they are lodgers or boarders, I will have another try later on.
Annie
Re: 1911 Census - Thomas and Lucy Lee or Wilson?
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 8:57 pm
by mallosa
mallosa wrote:Can anyone see the following family in 1911 please? If not under Lee, surname could be Wilson
1901: 7 bk of 75 Icknield Square, Ladywood, BirminghamThomas Lee 34 Head Lab in Tube Works
Lucy Lee 33 Wife
William Lee 13 SonAgnes Lee 11 Dau
Thomas Lee 10 Son
Fred Lee 9 Son
Edward Lee 8 Son
Alice Lee 4 Dau
(all born Birmingham)
Thankyou Annie for the 1911 Census

So it looks like Thomas died between 1901 and 1911
The above William was my Grandfather and he married Clara Fradley in 1907 but his surname is Wilson on the certificate
I have been looking for him with his parents for ages (Maths Girl can verify)
Sorry everyone, I know I've searched before but I'll start another thread in Brick Walls and see where it takes me this time

Re: 1911 Census - Thomas and Lucy Lee or Wilson?
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:05 pm
by peterd
san you tried the electrol register for the address on wedding cert see who there ?
Re: 1911 Census - Thomas and Lucy Lee or Wilson?
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:20 pm
by Annie
Poss ?
1911 census transcription details for: 5 Back 39 Pope St B'ham
LEE, William Head Married M 23 1888 Emery Wheeler Birmingham
LEE, Clara Wife Married
5 years F 23 1888 Home Duties Birmingham
LEE, Clara Daughter F 3 1908 Birmingham
LEE, Thomas Son M 0 (4 MONTHS) 1911 Birmingham
FRADLEY, Gertrude Boarder Single F 13 1898 Polisher Birmingham
4 children 2 died
Annie
Re: 1911 Census - Thomas and Lucy Lee or Wilson?
Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:49 pm
by mallosa
Annie wrote:Poss ?
1911 census transcription details for: 5 Back 39 Pope St B'ham
LEE, William Head Married M 23 1888 Emery Wheeler Birmingham
LEE, Clara Wife Married
5 years F 23 1888 Home Duties Birmingham
LEE, Clara Daughter F 3 1908 Birmingham
LEE, Thomas Son M 0 (4 MONTHS) 1911 Birmingham
FRADLEY, Gertrude Boarder Single F 13 1898 Polisher Birmingham
4 children 2 died
Annie
Yes Annie, that's what I have in my notes but why marry as a Wilson in 1907?
Pete, I have some notes somewhere of searches I did on the Electoral Roll but, can I find them?

Re: 1911 Census - Thomas and Lucy Lee or Wilson?
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 7:53 pm
by Annie
Hi Mallosa Not sure why they changed their names my grandma married in the name of Smith her step fathers name and her proper name was Faulkner , then on her childrens birth certificates she uses nee Faulkner , they don't make it easy for us.
Annie
Re: 1911 Census - Thomas and Lucy Lee or Wilson?
Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 9:51 pm
by cid
Cold this be his death? - from Free BMD
Deaths Mar 1909
WILSON Thomas 42 Birmingham 6d 14
Re: 1911 Census - Thomas and Lucy Lee or Wilson?
Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:24 am
by mallosa
That's a good possibility cid, I can't find a death for a Thomas Lee

Re: 1911 Census - Thomas and Lucy Lee or Wilson?
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:48 am
by Northern Lass
Moved to Gen discussion
Re: 1911 Census - Thomas and Lucy Lee or Wilson?
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:38 pm
by mallosa
cid wrote:Cold this be his death? - from Free BMD
Deaths Mar 1909
WILSON Thomas 42 Birmingham 6d 14
Is this the turning point when Thomas's family start to use Wilson instead of Lee?
I think I'll send for this certificate
The names in 1911 census certainly match up with 1901 Census
...here's the link
Re: 1911 Census - Thomas and Lucy Lee or Wilson?
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:52 pm
by mallosa
Agnes Wilson b1889 Birmingham, Warwickshire
Marriages Dec 1910
Lowe Arthur Birmingham 6d 210
Wilson Agnes Birmingham 6d 210
Can anyone see these in 1911 please?
Re: 1911 Census - Thomas and Lucy Lee or Wilson?
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:47 pm
by Maths girl
mallosa wrote:Agnes Wilson b1889 Birmingham, Warwickshire
Marriages Dec 1910
Lowe Arthur Birmingham 6d 210
Wilson Agnes Birmingham 6d 210
Can anyone see these in 1911 please?
1911 2 Harborne Terrace Stour ST
LOWE, Arthur Head Married M 25 1886 Metal Polisher Birmingham
LOWE, Agnes Wife Married F 22 1889 Birmingham