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1911 Census - Thomas and Lucy Lee or Wilson?

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 1:25 pm
by mallosa
Can anyone see the following family in 1911 please? If not under Lee, surname could be Wilson :?

1901: 7 bk of 75 Icknield Square, Ladywood, Birmingham
Thomas Lee 34 Head Lab in Tube Works
Lucy Lee 33 Wife
William Lee 13 Son
Agnes Lee 11 Dau
Thomas Lee 10 Son
Fred Lee 9 Son
Edward Lee 8 Son
Alice Lee 4 Dau
(all born Birmingham)

Re: 1911 Census - Thomas and Lucy Lee or Wilson?

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 6:44 pm
by Annie
Mallosa can't find Thomas under Lee or Wilson in Birmingham, will try some of the others and see if they come to light. :(

Annie

Re: 1911 Census - Thomas and Lucy Lee or Wilson?

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 6:59 pm
by Annie
Could Louise be Lucy ??

1911 : 21 Spring Hill Passage Birmingham
WILSON, Louisa Head Widow F 43 1868 Charwoman Birmingham
WILSON, Frederick Son Single M 19 1892 News Agent Birmingham
WILSON, Edwin Son Single M 17 1894 Nail Maker Birmingham
WILSON, Alice Daughter F 14 1897 Wirer Birmingham
WILSON, James Son M 7 1904 Birmingham
WILSON, Henry Son M 2 1909 Birmingham
TAYLOR, Albert Boarder Single M 21 1890 News Agent Birmingham

12 Children 4 Died
I'll keep looking
Annie

Re: 1911 Census - Thomas and Lucy Lee or Wilson?

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 7:26 pm
by Annie
Sorry Mallosa I'm having no luck, I have tried the childrens names both Lee and Wilson and there are some but they are lodgers or boarders, I will have another try later on.

Annie

Re: 1911 Census - Thomas and Lucy Lee or Wilson?

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 8:57 pm
by mallosa
mallosa wrote:Can anyone see the following family in 1911 please? If not under Lee, surname could be Wilson :?

1901: 7 bk of 75 Icknield Square, Ladywood, Birmingham
Thomas Lee 34 Head Lab in Tube Works
Lucy Lee 33 Wife
William Lee 13 Son
Agnes Lee 11 Dau
Thomas Lee 10 Son
Fred Lee 9 Son
Edward Lee 8 Son
Alice Lee 4 Dau
(all born Birmingham)


Thankyou Annie for the 1911 Census :wink: So it looks like Thomas died between 1901 and 1911

The above William was my Grandfather and he married Clara Fradley in 1907 but his surname is Wilson on the certificate
I have been looking for him with his parents for ages (Maths Girl can verify) :?

Sorry everyone, I know I've searched before but I'll start another thread in Brick Walls and see where it takes me this time :grin:

Re: 1911 Census - Thomas and Lucy Lee or Wilson?

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:05 pm
by peterd
san you tried the electrol register for the address on wedding cert see who there ?

Re: 1911 Census - Thomas and Lucy Lee or Wilson?

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:20 pm
by Annie
Poss ?

1911 census transcription details for: 5 Back 39 Pope St B'ham
LEE, William Head Married M 23 1888 Emery Wheeler Birmingham
LEE, Clara Wife Married
5 years F 23 1888 Home Duties Birmingham
LEE, Clara Daughter F 3 1908 Birmingham
LEE, Thomas Son M 0 (4 MONTHS) 1911 Birmingham
FRADLEY, Gertrude Boarder Single F 13 1898 Polisher Birmingham
4 children 2 died

Annie

Re: 1911 Census - Thomas and Lucy Lee or Wilson?

Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 9:49 pm
by mallosa
Annie wrote:Poss ?

1911 census transcription details for: 5 Back 39 Pope St B'ham
LEE, William Head Married M 23 1888 Emery Wheeler Birmingham
LEE, Clara Wife Married
5 years F 23 1888 Home Duties Birmingham
LEE, Clara Daughter F 3 1908 Birmingham
LEE, Thomas Son M 0 (4 MONTHS) 1911 Birmingham
FRADLEY, Gertrude Boarder Single F 13 1898 Polisher Birmingham
4 children 2 died

Annie


Yes Annie, that's what I have in my notes but why marry as a Wilson in 1907?

Pete, I have some notes somewhere of searches I did on the Electoral Roll but, can I find them? :roll:

Re: 1911 Census - Thomas and Lucy Lee or Wilson?

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 7:53 pm
by Annie
Hi Mallosa Not sure why they changed their names my grandma married in the name of Smith her step fathers name and her proper name was Faulkner , then on her childrens birth certificates she uses nee Faulkner , they don't make it easy for us.

Annie

Re: 1911 Census - Thomas and Lucy Lee or Wilson?

Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 9:51 pm
by cid
Cold this be his death? - from Free BMD

Deaths Mar 1909

WILSON Thomas 42 Birmingham 6d 14

Re: 1911 Census - Thomas and Lucy Lee or Wilson?

Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:24 am
by mallosa
That's a good possibility cid, I can't find a death for a Thomas Lee :wink:

Re: 1911 Census - Thomas and Lucy Lee or Wilson?

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:48 am
by Northern Lass
Moved to Gen discussion

Re: 1911 Census - Thomas and Lucy Lee or Wilson?

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:38 pm
by mallosa
cid wrote:Cold this be his death? - from Free BMD

Deaths Mar 1909
WILSON Thomas 42 Birmingham 6d 14


Is this the turning point when Thomas's family start to use Wilson instead of Lee?
I think I'll send for this certificate

The names in 1911 census certainly match up with 1901 Census ...here's the link

Re: 1911 Census - Thomas and Lucy Lee or Wilson?

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:52 pm
by mallosa
Agnes Wilson b1889 Birmingham, Warwickshire

Marriages Dec 1910
Lowe Arthur Birmingham 6d 210
Wilson Agnes Birmingham 6d 210

Can anyone see these in 1911 please?

Re: 1911 Census - Thomas and Lucy Lee or Wilson?

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:47 pm
by Maths girl
mallosa wrote:Agnes Wilson b1889 Birmingham, Warwickshire

Marriages Dec 1910
Lowe Arthur Birmingham 6d 210
Wilson Agnes Birmingham 6d 210

Can anyone see these in 1911 please?


1911 2 Harborne Terrace Stour ST
LOWE, Arthur Head Married M 25 1886 Metal Polisher Birmingham
LOWE, Agnes Wife Married F 22 1889 Birmingham