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Can anyone find this guy post 1891?

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NL and I could not find him in 1901 but I wonder if he pops up again in 1911 as there is a George Rose in Dudley, born 1884 Sunderland.

Can anyone see who else was in the household? It would be nice to work out who he married.

1911

2 Navigation Row Tipton


ROSE, George Son Married M 27 1884 Chain Maker Sunderland
ROSE, Clara Wife Married 7 years F 24 1887 Tipton 3 children born all still living
ROSE, Rosannah Daughter F 5 1906 Tipton
ROSE, Lilly Daughter F 4 1907 Tipton
ROSE, James Son M 2 1909 Tipton

Thanks a lot Cid
that must be him, I'll look for Clara now.

1904

George Rose and Clara Cartwright Tipton St John 36/3/235

seems to fit

1901: Boat Row, Tipton, Staffordshire
James Cartwright 37 Canal Boatman
Pricilla Cartwright 38 Shrewsbury
James Cartwright 16 Canal Barger?
Clara Cartwright 14 at home
Joseph Cartwright 12
Leah Cartwright 9
Eliza Cartwright 7
Hannah Cartwright 2
(others born Tipton)

Thanks Mal
Last thing I wanted was a bunch of canal people because they are always a pain in the neck to find!

What do you think NL? Is it possible to look up the marriage and see who the fathers are?

mallosa wrote::?
1901: Boat Row, Tipton, Staffordshire
James Cartwright 37 Canal Boatman
Pricilla Cartwright 38 Shrewsbury
James Cartwright 16 Canal Barger?
Clara Cartwright 14 at home
Joseph Cartwright 12
Leah Cartwright 9
Eliza Cartwright 7
Hannah Cartwright 2
(others born Tipton)

bet it is this one

1881
6 Rifle Row Tipton

Edward Cartwright 43 boatman
Ellen ditto 42
Sarah ditto unm 21
James ditto unm 18 boatman
Eliza ditto unm 16
Hannah ditto unm 14
Joseph ditto 12
Leah ditto 9
Clara ditto 3

all born Tipton

Not sure where I'm going with this one but, just in case....

1901: 2 Blast Row, Washington, Durham
George W Rose 48 Head Coalminer Dunston, Durham
Elizabeth Rose 46 Wife Backworth Northumberland
John Rose 19 Son S Coalminer/ Hewer Monkswearmouth, Durham
George W Rose 18 Son S Blacksmith Monkswearmouth, Durham
David Rose 14 Son ? Lab below ground Monkswearmouth, Durham
William Rose 3 months Son Washington, Durham
Elizabeth Rose 9 Dau Hebbern, Durham
Mary Rose 8 Dau Hebbern, Durham
Violet Rose 5 Dau Hebbern, Durham

I don't think so Mal.
The George Rose we want is a chainmaker in 1911.

He is son of the infamous William Rose and we have looked really hard for him in 1901.
Thing is that in 1901 William Rose was cohabiting with my great grandmother but NL and I have never managed to find his wife Jane after 1891, not in the census or as a death entry.
I think where ever George was in 1901 then perhaps his mother was there too but just can't find them.

West Midlands Marriage 1884.
CARTWRIGHT James, WEAVER Priscilla, Dudley, St James, Dudley Register Office, 202/010/35.

Thanks Jimmy
So perhaps this is Pris?

1881
Hillside Coreley, Shropshire

Richard Weaver 41 general lab Ludlow, Shropshire
Lavina ditto 39 Hopton Wafers, Shrops
William ditto unm 18 ditto
Priscilla ditto unm 17 ditto
Stephen ditto 11 Coreley, Shrops
Elizabeth ditto 9 Tipton, Staffs
Arthur ditto 6 ditto
Eliza Ann ditto 3 ditto
Fanny ditto 1 ditto

Incomers and Coreley is in the middle of nowhere!

Marriages Dec 1861.
Lloyd Lavinia. Cleobury M. 6a. 1159.
Lloyd Samuel. Cleobury M. 6a. 1159.
Morris Martha. Cleobury M. 6a. 1159.
WEAVER Richard. Cleobury M. 6a. 1159.

NL!!!

So, I'm happy that this is "our" George.
And happy to add this much at least:




1904 marriage George Rose and Clara Cartwright Tipton St John 36/3/235

Birth 1905 Rosanna Rose dec qtr Dudley
Birth 1907 Lily Rose (poss Lily Elizabeth dec qtr Dudley)
Birth 1908 James Rose dec qtr Dudley
Birth 1911 Jane Rose (mother Cartwright) dec qtr Dudley


1911
2 Navigation Row Tipton
ROSE, George Son Married M 27 1884 Chain Maker Sunderland
ROSE, Clara Wife Married 7 years F 24 1887 Tipton 3 children born all still living
ROSE, Rosannah Daughter F 5 1906 Tipton
ROSE, Lilly Daughter F 4 1907 Tipton
ROSE, James Son M 2 1909 Tipton

Then, if it looks Ok to you (though unchecked) we have the Cartwright/Weaver marriage and census, and now Jimmy (ta!) added the marriage for Richard Weaver to Lavinia Lloyd.

Question is, how much do you want adding?
(going to stop for now, until you reply since George is more yours than mine).

gardener wrote:Thanks Mal
Last thing I wanted was a bunch of canal people because they are always a pain in the neck to find!

What do you think NL? Is it possible to look up the marriage and see who the fathers are?

Yes add the marriage for a look up Gardener and I will do it


Add what you want to add on this the more the better
also did we ever find our William? in 1911 will put a post on

I am Adding this now Gardener

and I will add those marriages for look up

so flagging to arch this pending look ups