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Have had the marriage cert for James Speake and Hannah Mills
5 March 1877 Quinton Parish Curch
James Speake Full Widower Bricklayer Ridgacre Joseph Speake Labourer
Hannah Mills X Full Widow Ridgacre Thomas Morgan Labourer
Wit: David Detheridge Mary Detheridge

Im really confused

Possible first marriage.
Marriages Jun 1866.
Kimberley Ann. Bromsgrove. 6c 620.
Mills Thomas. Bromsgrove. 6c 620.
Morgan Hannah. Bromsgrove. 6c. 620.
Rea Thomas. Bromsgrove. 6c. 620.

Basics,
1871.
Thomas Mills. abt 1846.
Hannah Mills. abt 1842.
Mary Mills. abt 1867.
Sarah A Mills. abt 1869.
Lizzie Mills. abt 1871.

Which matches these two kids in 1881. It looks like Solomon the lodger is possibly her brother.

1881.
James SPEAKE Head M Male 41 N K, Shropshire, England Bricklayer
Hannah SPEAKE Wife M Female 40 Bromsgrove, Worcester, England
James SPEAKE Son U Male 20 Halesowen, Worcester, England Bricklayer
Joseph SPEAKE Son U Male 19 Halesowen, Worcester, England Bricklayer
Fanny SPEAKE Daur U Female 13 Halesowen, Worcester, England Scholar
Sarah A. MILLS Step Daur U Female 12 Halesowen, Worcester, England Scholar
William SPEAKE Son U Male 10 Barrow In Furness, Lancashire, England Scholar
Lizzie MILLS Step Daur U Female 10 Halesowen, Worcester, England
George MILLS Step Son Male 7 Halesowen, Worcester, England Scholar
Walter SPEAKE Son Male 1 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Alfred B. SPEAKE Son Male 1 m Halesowen, Worcester, England
Soloman MORGAN Lodger U Female 32 Bromsgrove, Worcester, England Farm Laborer

Spies Lane
The Hill, Worcester.

HANNAH MORGAN.
Christening, 29 AUG 1841. Chaddesley Corbett, Worcester.

SOLOMON MORGAN.
Christening, 18 APR 1847. Hadzor, Worcester.

Parents to both.
THOMAS MORGAN.
ANNE.

Basics.
1851. Bromsgrove.
Thomas Morgan. abt 1816.
Ann Morgan. abt 1816.
Joseph Morgan. abt 1839.
Hannah Morgan. abt 1842.
David Morgan. abt 1845.
Ann Morgan. abt 1847.
Solomon Morgan. abt 1850.

1881.
Thomas MORGAN. Head. M. Male. 65. Bromsgrove. Labourer Day.
Ann MORGAN. Wife. M. Female. 67. Tenbury.

Woodcote Green. (about 2 mile from Chaddesley Corbett, Worcester).
Bromsgrove, Worcester.

THOMAS MORGAN.
ANN WILD.
Marriage, 28 AUG 1837. Claines, Worcester.

Marriages Sep 1837.
ALLEN Edgar. Droitwich. 18. 245.
BANFORD William. Droitwich. 18. 245.
MORGAN Thomas. Droitwich. 18. 245.
NEED Harriet. Droitwich. 18. 245.
SMITH Ann. Droitwich. 18. 245.
WILD Ann. Droitwich. 18. 245.
WILLIAMS Elizabeth Lucy. Droitwich. 18. 245.

We have James Speake here on BCC
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =877141018

Somethings not right his age at marriage is 39 yet on 1901 cenus he is only 40

2 Sept 1888 St Giles Rowley Regis
James Speake 39 bach Bricklayer Brads Village Father James Speake Bricklayer
Hannah Rowley 29 spin Brads Village Father John Rowley Brick Carrier
Wit; James Rowley X Harriet Rowley.

1901 23 Dudley Road Oldbury

James Speake Head 40 Bricklayer Born Quinton
Hannah Speake Wife 41 Born Cakemore
Gertrude Speake Daur. 10 Born America
James Fredk Speake Son 5 Born Brades Village
Lily May Speake Daur. 2 Born Brades Village
John Rowley Bro in Law Widr. 43 Labourer in Brickworks Born Cakemore
Harriett Rowley Daur. 9 Born America
Amphss Rowley Daur. 7 Born America
James Rowley Son 5 Born America

This one is not the same as above,

1881.
James SPEAKE Head M Male 41 N K, Shropshire, England Bricklayer
Hannah SPEAKE Wife M Female 40 Bromsgrove, Worcester, England
James SPEAKE Son U Male 20 Halesowen, Worcester, England Bricklayer
Joseph SPEAKE Son U Male 19 Halesowen, Worcester, England Bricklayer
Fanny SPEAKE Daur U Female 13 Halesowen, Worcester, England Scholar
Sarah A. MILLS Step Daur U Female 12 Halesowen, Worcester, England Scholar
William SPEAKE Son U Male 10 Barrow In Furness, Lancashire, England Scholar
Lizzie MILLS Step Daur U Female 10 Halesowen, Worcester, England
George MILLS Step Son Male 7 Halesowen, Worcester, England Scholar
Walter SPEAKE Son Male 1 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Alfred B. SPEAKE Son Male 1 m Halesowen, Worcester, England
Soloman MORGAN Lodger U Female 32 Bromsgrove, Worcester, England Farm Laborer

Spies Lane
The Hill, Worcester.

But fits with this marriage.

5 March 1877 Quinton Parish Curch.
James Speake Full Widower Bricklayer Ridgacre Joseph Speake Labourer.
Hannah Mills X Full Widow Ridgacre Thomas Morgan Labourer.
Wit: David Detheridge Mary Detheridge.

Does this look at all possible?

1871
At 21 Anson St., Barrow, Dalton
James Peak Head 31 Brick Layer Iron Works b. Shropshire
Levina Peak Wife 30 b. Worcs., Quinton
James Peak Son 11 b. Worcs., Quinton
Mary Peak Daur 8 b. Worcs., Quinton
Fanny Peak Daur 5 b. Worcs., Quinton
Joseph Peak Son 2 b. Worcs., Quinton
William H Peak Son 2 weeks b. Lancs., Barrow
Emma Grosvenor Visitor Marr 49 b. Worcs., Quinton
Emma Grosvenor Daur 9 b. Worcs., Quinton

cf.:

Jimmy wrote:B
1881.
James SPEAKE Head M Male 41 N K, Shropshire, England Bricklayer
Hannah SPEAKE Wife M Female 40 Bromsgrove, Worcester, England
James SPEAKE Son U Male 20 Halesowen, Worcester, England Bricklayer
Joseph SPEAKE Son U Male 19 Halesowen, Worcester, England Bricklayer
Fanny SPEAKE Daur U Female 13 Halesowen, Worcester, England Scholar
Sarah A. MILLS Step Daur U Female 12 Halesowen, Worcester, England Scholar
William SPEAKE Son U Male 10 Barrow In Furness, Lancashire, England Scholar
Lizzie MILLS Step Daur U Female 10 Halesowen, Worcester, England
George MILLS Step Son Male 7 Halesowen, Worcester, England Scholar
Walter SPEAKE Son Male 1 Halesowen, Worcester, England
Alfred B. SPEAKE Son Male 1 m Halesowen, Worcester, England
Soloman MORGAN Lodger U Female 32 Bromsgrove, Worcester, England Farm Laborer

Spies Lane
The Hill, Worcester.

1861
At Quinton, Ridgeacre
James Peake Head 21 Ag. Lab b. Worcs., Stourbridge
Levina Peake Wife 19 b. Halesowen, Worcester
James Peake Son 8 Mo b. Halesowen, Worcester

Marriages Sep 1859
Grovenor Lavinia Birmingham 6d 97
Peake James Birmingham 6d 97
Sanders Ellen Birmingham 6d 97

That looks good to me.

Free BMD Marriages:
Lavinia Grovenor 1859 Birmingham (1837-1924) Warwickshire
Jane Heys 1859 Foleshill Warwickshire
James Peake 1859 Birmingham (1837-1924) Warwickshire
Thomas Randall 1859 Shipston On Stour Gloucestershire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire
Ellen Sanders 1859 Birmingham (1837-1924) Warwickshire

Sn ap!

Still confused about this

2 Sept 1888 St Giles Rowley Regis
James Speake 39 bach Bricklayer Brads Village Father James Speake Bricklayer
Hannah Rowley 29 spin Brads Village Father John Rowley Brick Carrier
Wit; James Rowley X Harriet Rowley.

1901 23 Dudley Road Oldbury
James Speake Head 40 Bricklayer Born Quinton
Hannah Speake Wife 41 Born Cakemore
Gertrude Speake Daur. 10 Born America
James Fredk Speake Son 5 Born Brades Village
Lily May Speake Daur. 2 Born Brades Village
John Rowley Bro in Law Widr. 43 Labourer in Brickworks Born Cakemore
Harriett Rowley Daur. 9 Born America
Amphss Rowley Daur. 7 Born America
James Rowley Son 5 Born America

is this the right one on BCC for him
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =877141018

Deaths Sep 1875
SPEAKE Lavinia 34 Stourbridge 6c 84