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*Arc tbc*----Eleanor Unk

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:24 pm
by Northern Lass

Re: Eleanor Unk

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:09 pm
by Annie
Can't find a Thomas and Eleanor getting married

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1864
WOOLVIN Thomas J GREEN Louisa L Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill Dudley Register Office 203/003/159


Marriages Dec 1864
Woolvin Thomas James Dudley 6c 69

Annie

Re: Eleanor Unk

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 12:37 am
by FarSide
Were they separated?? Don't see a marriage for Thomas and Eleanor - did they marry?

1881 Census Grocers Shop High Street Stourbridge Worcs.
Thomas James Woolvin Head 41 Grocer born Evesham Worcs.
Eleanor Woolvin wife 42 born Lichfield Staffs.
Harry Woolvin son 15 born Dudley Worcs.
Hannah Rogers serv. 18 General Servant born Mount Pleasant Staffs.



1881
No 198 Farm Street, Birmingham
Elizabeth Green 62 - unmarr - Head - Dressmaker
Susannah Green 78 - unmarr - Sister - Formerly dressmaker
Martha Green 52 - unmarr - Sister - Dressmaker
Louisa Woolven 33 - Married - Niece - Dressmaker - b Peterbgh, Northamptonshire

next door @ No 199 Farm St
Thomas Green 50 - Labourer (Yard) - b Smethwick
Mary Green 55 - b Newent, Gloucestershire
Mary A. Holman 8 - granddaug
Thomas A. Holman 2 - grandson
others b Birmingham


Deaths Dec 1881
Woolvin Louisa Lucas 35 Birmingham 6d 103

Deaths Dec 1895
Woolvin Thomas James 54 Stourbridge 6c 100

Re: Eleanor Unk

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:44 am
by FarSide
We have 2 Louisa Green's they are cousins..

Louisa # 1
1841
Cumbergate?, Northamptonshire
William Greer 25 - Gardner
Caroline Greer 25 - n b in c
Reubin Green 2
others b in c

Batch # I007298 (Catherine should be Caroline)
Louisa Green
Birth:
Christening: 12 OCT 1845 Peterborough, Northampton, England
Parents:
Father: William Green
Mother: Catherine Louisa

Same batch - the other kids with parents William & Caroline
Emily Green
Female Christening: 09 AUG 1840 Peterborough, Northampton

Mary Everett Green
Female Christening: 24 FEB 1850 Peterborough, Northampton

William Green
Male Christening: 03 DEC 1843 Peterborough, Northampton

Reuben Everitt Green
Male Christening: 30 DEC 1838 Peterborough, Northampton



1851
Westgate, Pickerille? yard, Peterborough
William Green 37 - Green grocer
Caroline Louisa Green 33 - b Great, Hertfordshire
Reuben Green 12 - Stall boy
Edwin Green 9
Louisa Green 5
Mary Everitt Green 1
others b Peterborough

and Louisa # 2
1851
Westgate
Susan Green 43 - unmar - Head - Milliner
Elizabeth Green 31 - unmar - Sister - Milliner
Elizabeth Green 69 - Mother - Widow
Charlotte Green 30 - unmar - Sister - Dressmaker
Martha Green 22 - unmar - Sister - Dressmaker
Louisa Green 4 - Niece
all b Peterborough

1861
Westgate Street, Peterborough
Elizabeth Green 78 - Widow
Susannah Green 55
Elizabeth Green 40 - Milliner
Martha Green 30 - Dressmaker
Louisa Green 14 - granddaug
Louisa Green 15 - granddaug
Arthur Dance 27 - Boarder - Railway clerk - b Australia
others b Peterborough

Re: Eleanor Unk

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:53 am
by FarSide
Louisa # 1 parents
1861
Albert Place, Peterborough
William Green 48 - Green grocer (Master)
Caroline L Green 42 - b Berkhampstead, Hertfordshire
Ruben Green 22 - Railway labourer
Mary E Green 11
Kate Green 8
Jane Kaye 65 - Lodger - Nurse domestic - b Royston, Hertfordshire
others b Peterborough

1871
15 Westgate, Peterborough
W Green 38 (58 on image) - Fruiterer
Caroline Louisa Green 51 - b Birkhampton, Bedfordshire
Kate Green 18
Ellison Cornwall 4
others b Peterborough

1881
86 Milton Sqr, Peterborough
William Green 68 - Widow - General labourer
Edwin Cornwell 14 - grandson
both b Peterborough

Re: Eleanor Unk

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:04 am
by FarSide
Louisa # 2
1871 (poss Tombs)
9 Thomas terrace, Peckham
Charles Timbs 40 - Engine driver Haleham saw? mill
Sarah Timbs 40
James H Timbs 17 - Seeker? Haleham saw? mill
Charlotte Timbs 12
Priscilla Timbs 12
Emily Timbs 9
William A Timbs 6
Eller Timbs 1
Louisa Green 25 - Lodger - Laundress - b Peterborough

Re: Eleanor Unk

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:03 am
by Northern Lass
So ours is Louisa 2 with mother Susannah?

is that rite?

and for some reason she is not with her husband
he is with Eleanor unk
and then louisa dies in 1881?

so we dont know who eleanor is?

:shock:

Re: Eleanor Unk

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:15 am
by FarSide
Northern Lass wrote:So ours is Louisa 2 with mother Susannah?

is that rite?

and for some reason she is not with her husband
he is with Eleanor unk
and then louisa dies in 1881?

so we dont know who eleanor is?

:shock:


I know!!.. :shock:
Need look up to prove
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1864
WOOLVIN Thomas J GREEN Louisa L Dudley, St John The Evangelist, Kates Hill Dudley Register Office 203/003/159

looks like Louisa dies late in 81..
I don't think Thomas & Eleanor married, in 81 Louisa was visiting her aunt/s
whilst old Thomas was shacked up and cosy with Eleanor..
don't see a death for Eleanor Woolvin either..
I wondered if she was Eleanor Simpson b Lichfield parents Charles and Catherine
but can't prove it, so didn't post it.

Re: Eleanor Unk

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:32 am
by Northern Lass
Ok well coulod you stick it for a look up
and if you fancy adding any of this to BCC FS pls do
that death could go in for Louisa I think
and in the notes for Eleanor you could just pop in who she might be?

only if you have time and want to
I am going to leave this one now

:shock:

So unless anyone wishes to run anymore with this
or add anymore

this can now be archived

Re: *Arc tbc*----Eleanor Unk

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:37 am
by FarSide
No prob I'll add it
Ü

Re: *Arc tbc*----Eleanor Unk

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:40 am
by Northern Lass
Thanks Chuck my head has gone!
:shock: