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Joseph Parsons b abt 1852-4 - fs will add what she can

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:37 am
by Northern Lass
His father is a Jesse
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =166088812

can we find him on census prior to marriage

Marriage info
4 Sept 1876 St Peters Cradley
-Joseph Parsons- 22- bach- bricklayer- Cradley- Jesse Parsons- collier
-Eliza Male- 23- spinster- servant- Cradley- Benjamin Male Tailor
banns
X Joseph/ Eliza signed
Wit - Joseph Parkes and Sarah Parkes

I think he is on the 1861 age 8 with a Jesse but the occup is odd
but there is a Sarah Ann sis there but age 11 so b 1850

I think the wits are a Sarah Parsons marriage would be good for them
think there was one but it was so early
1864
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
PARKES Joseph C PARSONS Sarah A Oldbury, Holy Trinity Sandwell Register Office 17/1/101


need to find Joseph on census and try and sort these Jesse Parsons out

Re: Joseph Parsons b abt 1852-4

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:27 am
by Northern Lass
I want to crack this one ....but am stuck...

He marries in 1876 and is a Bricklayer

then on other census he is a slaughter man
I am not convinced he is that one with Jesse and Sarah

1881 Colley Lane Cradley
Joseph Parsons 26 Netherton Slaughterman
Eliza Wife 28 Cradley
Carrie Parsons D 4 Cradley

1891:
Colly Lane, Cradley, Worc
Joseph Parsons 36 Head M Slaughterman/Butcher b.Lomey Town, Staffs

1901:
Park Road (next to Colley Gate) Cradley, Worc
Joseph Parsons 47 Head Butcher (Slaughterman) b.Netherton
Eliza Parsons 48 Wife b.Cradley
John Parsons 17 Son (Slaughterman)
b.Cradley

Re: Joseph Parsons b abt 1852-4

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:52 am
by Jimmy
There is this plus others.
1881.
Joseph PARKES Head M Male 34 Halesowen, Worcester, England Bricklayer
Sarah PARKES Wife M Female 34 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Mary PARKES Daur U Female 11 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
Roland PARKES Son U Male 3 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
Joseph PARKES Son U Male 4 m Rowley Regis, Stafford, England

Darby Street.
Rowley Regis, Stafford.

Re: Joseph Parsons b abt 1852-4

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:59 am
by Jimmy
1881.
Joseph PARKES Head M Male 25 Cradley, Worcester, England Bricklayer
Sarah PARKES Wife M Female 28 Stourbridge, Worcester, England Scholar
William PARKES Son Male 7 Cradley, Worcester, England Scholar
Joe PARKES Son Male 6 Cradley, Worcester, England Scholar
Mary E. PARKES Daur Female 2 Cradley, Worcester, England

14 Church Road.
Cradley, Worcester.

Re: Joseph Parsons b abt 1852-4

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:02 am
by Jimmy
1881.
Joseph PARKES Head M Male 29 Dudley, Worcester, England Labourer
Sarah Ann PARKES Wife M Female 30 Kingswinford, Stafford, England
George PARKES Son Male 8 Dudley, Worcester, England Scholar
Mercy PARKES Daur Female 5 Dudley, Worcester, England Scholar
Joseph PARKES Son U Male 3 Dudley, Worcester, England
John PARKES Son Male 12 m Dudley, Worcester, England

14 St James Terr.
Dudley, Worcester.

Re: Joseph Parsons b abt 1852-4

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:52 am
by Jimmy
Could be one of these,

West Midlands Marriage 1873.
PARKES Joseph. EDGE. Sarah. Dudley, St Thomas. Dudley Register Office. 204/031/66.

JOSEPH PARKES.
SARAH EDGE.
Marriage. 19 OCT 1873. Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

-------------------------------------

West Midlands Marriage 1873.
PARKES Joseph. MORETON. Sarah. Halesowen, St John the Baptist. Dudley Register Office. 014/004/81.

JOSEPH PARKES.
SARAH MORETON.
Marriage, 02 JUN 1873. Halesowen, Worcester
Husband Age at Marriage: 22
Wife Age at Marriage: 19

Re: Joseph Parsons b abt 1852-4

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 4:52 pm
by Northern Lass
I think I have sorted ....some of it ...... but see what you think

On BCC we have Joseph Parsons b abt 1778
here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =483297265

he has a Jesse Parsons b abt 1821-1823 here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =237617767

Now this Jesse is living on 1841 as a lab with father Joseph
then
in 1851 with wife Eliza and dau Caroline
at Cinderbank in 1851 and next door to Barzillai Heath and Lydia Heath nee Parsons sis of Jesse

I think this is our Jesse Parsons

and have connected
but I need more or will have to unconnect.....

interestingly his brother Joseph has a Joseph b abt 1855 but he is accounted for here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =276095248

and in 1881 has Joseph and Eliza living with him
so not ours

still stumped

need that Jesse Eliza and Caroline on 1861

Re: Joseph Parsons b abt 1852-4

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:51 pm
by Northern Lass
Well I just cant see them on the 1861

can anyone see them on any other census pls?

Re: Joseph Parsons b abt 1852-4

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:27 am
by mumbles
Not in same Street in 1861
Street changed to Dudley Road and most of neighbours are still there including Barzillai Heath and family

Re: Joseph Parsons b abt 1852-4

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:43 am
by Northern Lass
mumbles wrote:Not in same Street in 1861
Street changed to Dudley Road and most of neighbours are still there including Barzillai Heath and family



What do you think on this one Mumbles
shall I disconnect him from Jesse and Eliza?

I have asked the regis office for info on Josephs with father Jesse so there should be 2 of them
I cant see it being that Joseph with father Jesse and mother Sarah as that one is a glass blower and that Joseph of theirs
is prob this one...

1871 Clatterback Clent
Jesse Parsons Head 52 Glass maker Born Dudley
Sarah Parsons Wife 50 Born Dudley

Possible for Joseph
1871 44 Albion Street KIngswinford
Hannah Peacock Head Wid 53 Born Bristol
Alen Peacock Daur. 22 Born Bristol
John Peacock Son 12 Punter (Compositor) Born Bristol
Joseph Peacock Son 15 Spade and Shovel Maker Born Bristol
Joseph Parsons Boarder 18 Blacksmith and Iron Worker Born Dudley

can we find this Joseph on the 1871 on the 1881
that would then eliminate him as ours as ours is here


Marriage info
4 Sept 1876 St Peters Cradley
-Joseph Parsons- 22- bach- bricklayer- Cradley- Jesse Parsons- collier
-Eliza Male- 23- spinster- servant- Cradley- Benjamin Male Tailor
banns
X Joseph/ Eliza signed
Wit - Joseph Parkes and Sarah Parkes

1881 Colley Lane Cradley
Joseph Parsons 26 Netherton Slaughterman
Eliza Wife 28 Cradley
Carrie Parsons D 4 Cradley


just thought...look at that daus name Carrie
is that for Caroline.....
named after his sister!!!

Re: Joseph Parsons b abt 1852-4

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:49 am
by Northern Lass
no carrie but...

1876
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
PARSONS Caroline R Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/66/13


West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1878
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Reference
PARSONS Caroline Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/72/59

have we the full 1891 for this family
1891:
Colly Lane, Cradley, Worc
Joseph Parsons 36 Head M Slaughterman/Butcher b.Lomey Town, Staffs

Re: Joseph Parsons b abt 1852-4

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:10 am
by FarSide
have we the full 1891 for this family
1891:
Colly Lane, Cradley, Worc
Joseph Parsons 36 Head M Slaughterman/Butcher b.Lomey Town, Staffs


He's living alone in a 3 room house

Re: Joseph Parsons b abt 1852-4

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:34 am
by Northern Lass
While I split this

Q where is Carrie that dau of our Joseph on other census?
she is b abt 1876/7

and where is that other Jesse/Eliza and Caroline and Joseph

cos I think that they are one family

Re: Joseph Parsons b abt 1852-4

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:05 am
by FarSide
Not sure which topic for this.. so I'll post on both
Here's Eliza & son John
1891
Colley Gate, Cradley
Sarah Male 74 - Widow - b Kidderminister
John Male 30 - Iron worker
Eliza Parsons 38 - Charwoman
John Parsons 7 - grandson
others b Cradley

Re: Joseph Parsons b abt 1852-4

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:20 am
by FarSide
Trying to get my head around this..

Northern Lass wrote:I want to crack this one ....but am stuck...

He marries in 1876 and is a Bricklayer

then on other census he is a slaughter man
I am not convinced he is that one with Jesse and Sarah

1881 Colley Lane Cradley
Joseph Parsons 26 Netherton Slaughterman
Eliza Wife 28 Cradley
Carrie Parsons D 4 Cradley

1891:
Colly Lane, Cradley, Worc
Joseph Parsons 36 Head M Slaughterman/Butcher b.Lomey Town, Staffs

1901:
Park Road (next to Colley Gate) Cradley, Worc
Joseph Parsons 47 Head Butcher (Slaughterman) b.Netherton
Eliza Parsons 48 Wife b.Cradley
John Parsons 17 Son (Slaughterman)
b.Cradley



1891
Colley Gate, Cradley
Sarah Male 74 - Widow - b Kidderminister
John Male 30 - Iron worker
Eliza Parsons 38 - Charwoman
John Parsons 7 - grandson
others b Cradley

Marriage info
4 Sept 1876 St Peters Cradley
-Joseph Parsons- 22- bach- bricklayer- Cradley- Jesse Parsons- collier
-Eliza Male- 23- spinster- servant- Cradley- Benjamin Male Tailor
banns
X Joseph/ Eliza signed
Wit - Joseph Parkes and Sarah Parkes