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Got a marriage look up by RF ta RF

we have so many James parkes on BCC need dob

dau is Eliza Parkes b abt 1875
she marries in 1893 St Paul Blackheath and at time of marriage puts 92 High St Blackheath I presume as she
weds there

James is a Stoker at pottery
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=51348367

Possible?
1891 93, High Street, Rowley Regis, Blackheath
PARKES, James Head Married M 44 1847 Stoker At Sanitary Pipe Works Rowley Regis Staffordshire
PARKES, Mary Wife Married F 43 1848 Nail Maker Rowley Regis Staffordshire
PARKES, James Son Single M 17 1874 Coal Miner Rowley Regis Staffordshire
PARKES, Eliza Daughter Single F 15 1876 Rowley Regis Staffordshire
PARKES, William Son M 14 1877 Rowley Regis Staffordshire
PARKES, George Son M 7 1884 Scholar Rowley Regis Staffordshire
PARKES, Henry Son M 5 1886 Scholar Rowley Regis Staffordshire

Change of location and occupation but children look good
1881 5, Hackett St, Rowley Regis
PARKES, James Head Married M 34 1847 Nailer Rowley Regis Staffordshire
PARKES, Mary Wife Married F 32 1849 Nailer Rowley Regis Staffordshire
PARKES, Joseph Son Single M 16 1865 Coal Miner Rowley Regis Staffordshire
PARKES, Mary Daughter Single F 10 1871 Scholar Rowley Regis Staffordshire
PARKES, James Son Single M 6 1875 Scholar Rowley Regis Staffordshire
PARKES, Eliza Daughter Single F 3 1878 Rowley Regis Staffordshire
PARKES, William Son Single M 2 1879 Rowley Regis Staffordshire
PARKES, George Son Single M 1 1880 Rowley Regis Staffordshire

1871 Hackett St, Rowley Regis
PARKES, James Head M 25 1846 Staffordshire Nailer
PARKES, Mary Wife F 23 1848 Staffordshire Nailer
PARKES, Joseph Son M 6 1865 Staffordshire Scholar
PARKES, James Son M 2 1869 Staffordshire
PARKES, Mary Daughter F 0 1871 Staffordshire

1901 census
PARKES, James Head Married M 54 1847 Firer Tube Works
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
PARKES, Mary Wife Married F 52 1849 Iron Nail Maker
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
PARKES, William Son Single M 22 1879 Drain Pipe Maker (Clay)
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
PARKES, Alice Daughter Single F 18 1883 Bolt Machine Operator
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
PARKES, George Son Single M 17 1884 Coal & Stone Carter
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
PARKES, Harry Son Single M 15 1886 Labourer Nut & Bolt Works
Rowley Regis
Staffordshire
13, Powke Lane, Rowley Regis

Ok that is James Parkes great!

Now think I might have to rejig what I have on BCC

can we find this James pls on 1911
as I dont think this George is son

25 Dec 1905 St Lukes Cradley Heath
-George Parkes- 21- bach- Plasterer- Old Hill- James Parkes- late- nail maker
-Martha Rollason- 22- spinster- Old Hill- Edwin Rollason- boltmaker
banns
both signed
Wit- Thomas Prescott/ Florence Smith

Wonder if we have Jame on bcc already
1861
At Mincing lane, Rowley Regis
Joseph Parkes Head 40 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Fanny Parkes Wife 34 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
James Parkes Son 14 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
John Parkes Son 12 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Parkes Daur 9 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Ellen Parkes Daur 4 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Joseph Parkes Son 3 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Fanny Parkes Daur 3 Mo b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Emma Hadley Boarder 19 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis

1911:
PARKES, MRS MARY WIFE WIDOW F 62 TURNER`S HILL STAFFS
PARKES, MR HARRY SON SINGLE M 25 LABOURER NUT AND BOLT BLACKHEATH STAFFS
PARKES, MISS ALICE DAUGHTER SINGLE F 28 SCREWER BLACKHEATH STAFFS
SMITH, MR RICHARD BOARDER SINGLE M 29 STRIKER ROWLEY STAFFS
Address POWKE LANE BLACKHEATH B`HAM County Staffordshire Parish Rowley Regis

Now I am not sure if George is part of that one or not

Northern Lass wrote:Wonder if we have Jame on bcc already
1861
At Mincing lane, Rowley Regis
Joseph Parkes Head 40 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Fanny Parkes Wife 34 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
James Parkes Son 14 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
John Parkes Son 12 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Parkes Daur 9 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Ellen Parkes Daur 4 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Joseph Parkes Son 3 b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Fanny Parkes Daur 3 Mo b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Emma Hadley Boarder 19 Nail Maker b. Staffs., Rowley Regis

I think it is the same one

1871 he is not with family and our James is also in hackett st nailer

1871
At Hackett St., Rowley Regis
Joseph Parkes Head 50 Nailer b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Fanny Parkes Wife 45 Nailer b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
John Parkes Son 23 Nailer b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Parkes Daur 18 Nailer b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Ellen Parkes Daur 16 Nailer b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Joseph Parkes Son 12 Nailer b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Caroline Parkes Daur 8 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley Regis (Is Caroline Fanny?)
William Parkes Son 6 Scholar b. Staffs., Rowley Regis
Samuel Parkes Son 3 Scholar b. Staffs, Rowley Regis (This is on original but not on Ancestry`s transcription)

Northern Lass wrote:Ok that is James Parkes great!

Now think I might have to rejig what I have on BCC

can we find this James pls on 1911
as I dont think this George is son

25 Dec 1905 St Lukes Cradley Heath
-George Parkes- 21- bach- Plasterer- Old Hill- James Parkes- late- nail maker
-Martha Rollason- 22- spinster- Old Hill- Edwin Rollason- boltmaker
banns
both signed
Wit- Thomas Prescott/ Florence Smith

NL what do you want us to look for here as you seem to want James Parkes who is dead in 1905 looked up on 1911 census? Am I misunderstanding or is it a typing error?

This one found by RF is the only George of the right age living with James father in 1901 that I can see

1901 13, Powke Lane, Rowley Regis
PARKES, James Head Married M 54 1847 Firer Tube Works Rowley Regis Staffordshire
PARKES, Mary Wife Married F 52 1849 Iron Nail Maker Rowley Regis Staffordshire
PARKES, William Son Single M 22 1879 Drain Pipe Maker (Clay) Rowley Regis Staffordshire
PARKES, Alice Daughter Single F 18 1883 Bolt Machine Operator Rowley Regis Staffordshire
PARKES, George Son Single M 17 1884 Coal & Stone Carter Rowley Regis Staffordshire
PARKES, Harry Son Single M 15 1886 Labourer Nut & Bolt Works Rowley Regis Staffordshire

Northern Lass wrote:1911:
PARKES, MRS MARY WIFE WIDOW F 62 TURNER`S HILL STAFFS
PARKES, MR HARRY SON SINGLE M 25 LABOURER NUT AND BOLT BLACKHEATH STAFFS
PARKES, MISS ALICE DAUGHTER SINGLE F 28 SCREWER BLACKHEATH STAFFS
SMITH, MR RICHARD BOARDER SINGLE M 29 STRIKER ROWLEY STAFFS
Address POWKE LANE BLACKHEATH B`HAM County Staffordshire Parish Rowley Regis

MG I wanted to find if James Parkes, that is the father of George Parkes that married Martha, is alive on the 1911
if so that would eliminate him as father of george that married Martha
but found it in my notes...so yes he is dead by 1911

So I think that George parkes that married Martha in 1905 has father James Parkes b 1847 and mother Mary unknown

now the dilemma I have is when did he die
1905 or 1907

if 1905 I am ok with George that married Martha
but
if 1907 I am back to square one as it cant be James Parkes hubby of Mary unknown as father of George that married Martha

but I think is so have connected up

This is now Completed for the moment I have a query in with the regis office

will bring back with more info