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*Arc tbc* ----Phoebe Smart
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:17 pm
by Northern Lass
have verified a marriage in 1825
need to find her parents
think a sister maybe a Maria Smart she was a wit at marriage
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =807684042
Re: Phoebe Smart
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:00 pm
by peterd
might help if someone can find the early censuses and who living near them ?
Re: Phoebe Smart
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:00 pm
by grangers14
The page previous to Phoebe on the 1841 census has,
Long? Lane, Halesowen,
James Bastable, 30, Bricklayer
Ann, 28,
Reuben, 12,
William, 6,
Mary Ann, 5,
Thomas, 4 months
/Sarah Smart, 70, Widow
All born in County
IGI Extracted Marriage,
James Bastable, Ann Smart, 25 Dec 1828, St Thomas Dudley
Re: Phoebe Smart
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:06 pm
by grangers14
Extracted IGI
Samuel Mucklow, Maria Smart, 28 Aug 1825, St thomas Dudley
1841 Census
Cakemore, Halesowen
Samuel Mucklow, 35, Nail M
Maria 35, Nail M
Betty, 15, Nail M
Eli, 10, Nail M
Phylena, 10, nail m
Sarrah, 5,
Samuel, 8,
Ruth, 4,
Jane, 1
On BCC here,
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=17733457
Re: Phoebe Smart
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 1:13 pm
by grangers14
Possible IGI
Submitted Christening
PHEBE SMART Christening: 27 SEP 1807 Halesowen, Worcester,
Father: THOMAS SMART Mother: SARAH
Re: Phoebe Smart
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:33 pm
by peterd
extracted
Ann Smart
Christening: 12 APR 1813 Halesowen, Shropshire,
Father: Thomas Smart
Mother: Sarah Smart
grangers14 wrote:The page previous to Phoebe on the 1841 census has,
Long? Lane, Halesowen,
James Bastable, 30, Bricklayer
Ann, 28,
Reuben, 12,
William, 6,
Mary Ann, 5,
Thomas, 4 months
/Sarah Smart, 70, Widow
All born in County
IGI Extracted Marriage,
James Bastable, Ann Smart, 25 Dec 1828, St Thomas Dudley
Re: Phoebe Smart
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:37 pm
by peterd
poss ? extracted
MARY MARIA SMART
Christening: 02 JUN 1805 Cradley, Worcester,
Father: THOMAS SMART
Mother: SARAH
Re: Phoebe Smart
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:00 am
by FarSide
peterd wrote:extracted
Ann Smart
Christening: 12 APR 1813 Halesowen, Shropshire,
Father: Thomas Smart
Mother: Sarah Smart
grangers14 wrote:The page previous to Phoebe on the 1841 census has,
Long? Lane, Halesowen,
James Bastable, 30, Bricklayer
Ann, 28,
Reuben, 12,
William, 6,
Mary Ann, 5,
Thomas, 4 months
/Sarah Smart, 70, Widow
All born in County
IGI Extracted Marriage,
James Bastable, Ann Smart, 25 Dec 1828, St Thomas Dudley
Halesowen
12 Apr 1813
Ann, do Thomas & Sarah Smart, Cakemore, Nailer
Re: Phoebe Smart
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:40 am
by kdw
From Halesowen Parish Registers
2 Possible marriages for Thomas Smart and Sarah
27 Mar 1785 St Johns Halesowen
Thos Smart otp bach
Sarah Andrews X otp spin
by JP Curate
Wit: John Parkes and Joseph Chandler
Banns
16 Feb 1787
Thomas Smart otp Bach
Sarah Granger X otp spin
by JP Curate
Wit: Eleanor Bent and Joseph Chandler
Baptisms for children of Thomas and Sarah Smart
15 July 1787
Mary do Thomas and Sarh Smart
25 Dec 1788
Samuel so Thomas and Sarh Smart
12 March 1791
Elizabeth do Thomas and Sarah Smart
23 June 1793
Nancy do Thomas and Sarh Smart
15 March 1795
Joseph so Thomas and Sarah Smart
16 July 1797
Sarah do Thomas and Sarah Smart
20 Oct 1799
Hannah do Thomas and Sarah Smart
6 June 1802
Thomas so Thomas and Sarah Smart
27 Sep 1807
Phoebe do Thomas and Sarah Smart
18 April 1813
Ann do Thomas and Sarah Smart, Cakemore, Nailer
Re: Phoebe Smart
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:27 pm
by Northern Lass
Ok lost the plot on this one
can anyone fill in anything that is appropriate and looks good
cos not got time to sort this one
Re: Phoebe Smart
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 7:40 pm
by peterd
kdw wrote:From Halesowen Parish Registers
2 Possible marriages for Thomas Smart and Sarah
27 Mar 1785 St Johns Halesowen
Thos Smart otp bach
Sarah Andrews X otp spin
by JP Curate
Wit: John Parkes and Joseph Chandler
Banns
16 Feb 1787
Thomas Smart otp Bach
Sarah Granger X otp spin
by JP Curate
Wit: Eleanor Bent and Joseph Chandler
Baptisms for children of Thomas and Sarah Smart
15 July 1787
Mary do Thomas and Sarh Smart
25 Dec 1788
Samuel so Thomas and Sarh Smart
12 March 1791
Elizabeth do Thomas and Sarah Smart
23 June 1793
Nancy do Thomas and Sarh Smart
15 March 1795
Joseph so Thomas and Sarah Smart
16 July 1797
Sarah do Thomas and Sarah Smart
20 Oct 1799
Hannah do Thomas and Sarah Smart
6 June 1802
Thomas so Thomas and Sarah Smart
27 Sep 1807
Phoebe do Thomas and Sarah Smart
18 April 1813
Ann do Thomas and Sarah Smart, Cakemore, Nailer
there wouldn't be a death for a sarah smart c 1793 or just after as ive noticed before if two couple are the same then one name is altered eg thos for thomas or poss in this case sarh for sarah so families can be distingushed between each other ?
Re: Phoebe Smart
Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 12:28 pm
by Northern Lass
If we can add anything with certaintly pls do
can we archive this now?
flagging to arc